Topic started by Ekam Satyam (@ 219.92.81.35) on Thu Jun 5 10:07:51 EDT 2003.
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Why are most of the songs by Malaysian Tamil bands & artistes are all sounding the same ???
I mean most of the songs are based on the same simple drum beat, screeching guitar sound, fast-rap like shouting vocals, etc which is the trend started by those "saavi" band and their song
"sister's daughter". They somehow call this style as "samba rock".
Any "ulloor" (local) Tamil song you listen to, whether in radio stations, TV, audio shop, functions, etc ... you will listen to this type of song only ... Why do the bands & artistes just copy or follow this style ? Are there no other styles in music or they don't know any other style that exist in music ?? Are there no creativity among Tamil musicians in Malaysia ??
Most of the Malaysian Tamil songs are in this style that one music director from Tamil cinema thought this is Malaysian Tamil music and used it in his song "O podu". Now many Tamil cinema songs are using this "O podu" style ...
Just because that "sister's daugther" song somehow became famous among Malaysian Tamil youth, the other bands, artistes, recording labels, producers, etc are just churning out songs only based on this "kaatthaan" sound ... when you listen to the sound, it reminds you of uncivilized jungle inhabitants dancing wildly & performing their rituals ...
Also the Malaysian Tamil bands & artistes ... they all look like drug addicts, criminals, cult worshippers, gangsters, etc. Long untidy hair, weird moustache-beard styles, ear-rings nose rings, black attire, angry look like want to whack somebody, etc ...
Even their band names & album names sound crazy & gothic ... "sudugadu", "devil ana", "peyi", etc. All they know is heavy metal, rock, rap, hip-hop ... only the youngsters who are same "case" like these bands & artistes listen & support them ... nobody else listens or support this so called "musicians" ... bcoz there is really nothing to enjoy in these songs ... just unpleasing sound ...
if want to criticize more, can keep on going but only wasting time ... what happened to Tamil music in Malaysia ? Is this Tamil music in Malaysia ? Nobody can do real good music among Tamil people in Malaysia ?
"...vaalga Malaysia Tamil isai ..."
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- From: Music Listener (@ 62.255.64.7)
on: Sat Oct 2 21:16:52 EDT 2004
Dear friends, I have to admit .. I haven't heard Kravanah or Rekha's music, so I can't comment there. Having heard your comments about local Tamil music...this is my view. Like any form of art...music also evolves...from primitive 3 chord keyboard drum machine banging screaming bands like Keys of yesterday to more musically polished groups like Boomerangx, Hyper kinetix, etc... of today. This is the same cycle that took western music to where it is today. Also in India from Ilayaraja to AR. Music is changing because the world is changing.
Tamil music in Malaysia is evolving and will continue to evolve to a level that is better then when it started. I cannot say for sure if it will ever be better than India because music in India would have also evolved by then. But I do believe we have immense talent in Malaysia.
The reason why the recording quality of local Tamil songs, sounds inferior to ones from India is very simple...the equipments used and most importantly the sound engineers working on these albums are inadequate. Me having played for both English bands and Tamil bands and also having recorded albums in both genres many years ago, I do know the situation very well.
Take for example the Boomerangx album, the recording was done in Digital Tones just like Rekha's album. Ahmed Faseeh whom I regard highly, is an impeccable sound engineer and an excellent guitarist. There is a clear difference in the quality of the vocal of the Lock Up guest singer as compared to his own vocals in their own albums. No Lock Up album was ever mastered in the US. I think "musician" is getting his facts mixed up. The 2nd album was mastered in Synchro Sound in PJ which has some "white" sound engineers but that is all. But unfortunately, if the initial sound recording is poor, no amount of intelligent mastering is ever going to improve the sound on the tape.
One thing "musician" got right was the fact that there is no expert in sound mastering in the Tamil scene but there are some in the Malay and English arenas.
On Okocha's comments - No one can confirm the acually quantity sold. The distributors will never tell you the real figure and no one knows the number of pirated copies on sale. Local albums are being sold in some parts of the world, but is anyone buying them ? The only people buying Malaysian albums here in London where I live are Malaysians.
As for the other comments, it is true that we should criticise constructively. The listening public should also wise up and embrace good quality music and not beat up the local DJ if he doesn't play their favourite "darkkey" song again and again. Musicians and composers can only improve if the music listener makes his/her comments known wisely. Because at the end of the day, a song is not a song until it has been listened to.
- From: naga (@ )
on: Mon Oct 11 13:18:38 EDT 2004
kashmir stone valga.only the best rock band that i like and more interesting.
- From: it ain't me (@ 61.6.127.65)
on: Tue Oct 12 22:42:23 EDT 2004
dear music-manias...the reason no new music reaches the market is because it is not supported. Recently, a new album, SWASAM was released and the critism from the likes of Boomerangx and et al. was that the music is not very good and not well researched to the local Malaysian taste. The fact that a young Malaysian spent hours learning with too many mistakes to count for 3 years before producing the album didn't matter at all. It is still not in, because it is different. It's not the crap you are forced to listen to on air. There are a few shouts of resistance but they are being drowned by the masses. So, how do these revolutioners persist?
- From: musician (@ 219.92.182.7)
on: Wed Oct 13 14:58:31 EDT 2004
what ever you guys want to comment,it's ok.
i have been in this music line for more than 30 years,From re'shah time to sri shan to mani mala
to tamarai,after that all programed music.Malaysian musicians have not produce any song that sounds like 1.rosapoo cinna rosapoo,sembaruthi pove,apple penne.
so far everbody just talk only.i did that,i did this.you know something it 2004 now and we still haven't proved anything.just talk.
lock up did do mastering in overseas.please do your homework.
- From: musician (@ 219.92.182.7)
on: Wed Oct 13 15:06:03 EDT 2004
Ahmad Faseeh,who is he,i think he is doing a lousy job.Just because he is a guitar player does not mean he is a good sound engineer.
2004 yet no improvement.sorry for the comment.It is the truth.
- From: Local Artiste (@ )
on: Fri Nov 5 21:26:50 EST 2004
hi musician (padaiyappa2003@yahoo.com)
its very regretful with your statement claiming malaysian composers are lack of talents...although ur 30years experience strenghthen ur musical knowledge but it is yet to improve ur thinking and behaviour...being a good musician we should appreciate all sort of music works...and not to discriminate any this works...it is indirectly encourage our local music communities....
Dear Mr. Musician....there are few composers locally who have produced wonderful music works.....this is for your kind knowledge and persual.......
Rockgawave...."navinam chapter 2"
kravanah...."Naameh & kayin kuleh"
Eravu......"velaipura"
Swasam.....
One more important thing.....do you often listen to THR esspecially Ms. Selvi's programme......
try listen to Selvi music ID...."muthal muthalai"...its just abt 20-30 seconds....but the music arrangement is perfect, wonderful.....honestly...i really dont know who is the musician actually but i guest he must be a Malaysian......
Support Local Musician and be a good Malaysian
- From: OG NANBA GUYZ (@ )
on: Tue Nov 23 09:03:51 EST 2004
dei all of u mudap....ngala,,lock up stupid,naddan sunnya oomburanungeee..dont follow them...bcoz they take drugxx when they have show.........hey guys try listenog nanba songs
from og nanba ......wassup mudda p....ngala!!!
- From: tamilaboyz (@ 218.111.203.123)
on: Tue Nov 23 09:07:40 EST 2004
hei LOCK UP guyzz what hell u guyzz are try to go real lockup..heheheehehehe.eheheheh aahahah
to those who listen or their fanzz...u all mada
puuuuu........ahahahah
- From: TAMILVALGE (@ 218.111.203.123)
on: Tue Nov 23 09:16:31 EST 2004
DEIIII.....TAMILABOYZZ NEXT ALBUM TITLE GONCANG- GONCANG POOLAA GONCANG-GONCANG AAAA....MAYIRANDINGALAA....VERAA NALLE TAMIL VARTAIYEE KIDAIKALAYA ....MALAIKAREN POOLAA PUDICI OOOMBURINGAAAA.... TAMILEE ALIKKATINGEE..
PERUU TAMILA BOYZUU ANAL MALAY VARTAIYAAA DEI PEP PUN***INGALAAAAAA
- From: sujata (@ )
on: Fri Dec 17 02:08:36 EST 2004
hi plz sent me this song ,Goyang goyang kepala goyang,i like this song very much,
- From: JP (@ 203.123.16.124)
on: Fri Dec 17 02:29:28 EST 2004
Naaan piranthe mannill...ivvali azhagana moliya?..
aaha..arputham....
:)
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