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Topic started by Gokul (@ p1.echostar.com) on Sat Mar 21 20:36:45 EST 1998.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

I am not sure if this thread has been attempted
before: If so , Ravi..Knock this off!

Many pioneers in TFM have innovated in a variety
of ways to make TFM absolutely Great.

The Keyword here is UNIQUENESS!

I would love to identify songs that are truly unique.

Uniqueness could be in

--Construct of Music (Style,Instruments etc)
--Singing
--Lyrics

As my knowledge of MDs other than IR is very limited , I request Kanchana,SK,Gopal,RajaRam,
Ramki & others to pitch in for TFM prior to IR.

My Examples for Unique Songs:

1. maNNil Indha Kaadhal - Keladi kaNmanNi
-- For SPB's Singing

2. KalaivaaNiye - Sindhu Bhairavi
-- For the musical construct

Now.. Over to you folks..

Responses:

Old responses
From: Gokul (@ 204.76.129.186) on: Sun Apr 5 04:53:29 EDT 1998

All,

There seems to be a lot of ambiguity about
classifying NeeLa PallaVi songs as Unique.
Let us Skip 'em and move ahead(May be we can have a separate Thd for Long Pallavi Songs ).

As Gopal Said, there are many songs where Ragams Have been innovatively used. Raga Guys.. Get on with it!

Also another Poser..

Does Mari Mari Nine (Padariyen from SB) qualify
as an Unique because of the change in Raagam?
From: haris (@ 206.103.12.125) on: Fri Apr 10 00:38:26 EDT 1998

In the film 'YejamAn', Malaysia VAsudevan has sung for both rajnikanth and kaundamani for the song 'thookku chattiya thookki pAtthu moppam pidippom'.
A single singer singing for more than one actor has happenned in many songs. but the uniqueness here is that, when both rajni, and kaundar sing together, we can hear malaysia's voice being super-imposed.
From: S.Suresh (@ dwarpal.wipsys.soft.net) on: Tue Apr 14 08:23:44 EDT 1998

Listen to the Valli song, "Ennulle Ennulle". This has no percussion instruments. The violins provide the beat but you dont miss the percussion instruments. Excellent song. Further in this song IR uses something called polyphony. That is, instruments keep joining at leaving at different times. There is no set intervals. IR has done this in many songs earlier also but I dont remember them offhand.

All songs of the Malayalam film "Guru" can also qualify since the orchestration is by a Hungarian troupe and it really sounds different. In this also in some songs polyphony is used.
From: vaidy (@ kcpxy3.att.com) on: Tue Apr 14 14:24:58 EDT 1998

Gokul has mentioned not to talk about songs with long pallavis. Still I cud not resist writing abt this song:

Padam: Palaivanach cholai

Pournami neram paavai oruthi minnal pole munnal ponaal pinnal kandu pinnaal senren ponnu oorukku puthuso enru kaalil ullathu puthusu enraal Oh! mele ketkadhe..

Is there a separate category for songs that are unique in lyrics, like:
Parthen sirithen pakkam varath thudithen..(padam: Veera Abhimanyu)

Kavignar has very skillfully ended all lines in "then"

Another song under the same category wud be:
Vaan nila nilla alla un vaalibamnila (padam: Pattina pravesham)

Vaidy
From: Manjula (@ 204.4.195.7) on: Mon Apr 20 03:36:24 EDT 1998

Vaidy,
There are so many songs example for 'sor poru pin varu nilai ani'.Here are some more examples
1. Inangalile enna ianm pen inam[with word 'ianm'].
2. Vasantha kala nathigalile vaira mani neelraailgal[with word 'alaigal']
3. Manithan manithan evan than manithan[manithan]
There are plenty.
From: Manjula (@ 204.4.195.7) on: Tue Apr 21 04:59:46 EDT 1998

Oru change-kku 'santhanam' engira word oru paattoda pallaviyile entha idathileyum varra mathiri songs collection pathi yosikalama,i have few songs

1. Santhanam pusa manjal nilavum vanthanam
2. Santhanam karaichachu en mama sangathi ennachu
3. Thana vantha santhaname unnaai thaluva
4. Araicha santhanam alagu kugumam
5. Santhana katre senthami utre santhosa patte vaa vaa.

Ithai polave 'Nilave' enra arambikkum padagalum undu.Any body want to try?
From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Tue Apr 21 05:48:03 EDT 1998

Manjula - Neenga oru puthu thread-ai aarambithirkkalaamey? Anyway, Nilavu has already been done. Aduththathu enna? Kungumam, viboothi? :-))

6. Santhanaththil nalla vaasam eduththhu - TMS PS in Praaptham
7. Saanthu pottu, santhana pottu - SPB in Devar Magan
From: Ramamurthy (@ pppsl484.chicagonet.net) on: Tue Apr 21 23:30:58 EDT 1998

Santhu pottu palapalkka
Santhanapottu gamagamakka
Film: Sivagangai cheemai
Music:Visvanathan-Ramamurthy
From: Amar (@ worf.qntm.com) on: Wed Apr 22 09:07:06 EDT 1998

More....
1. Santhanam Kungumam Konda Thaamaraippoo - Ragasiya Police 115
2. Santhanakkudathukkulley Panthugal Urundu Vanthu Vilayaaduthu - Thangachurangam
From: Bhaskar (@ freeway.proxy.lucent.com) on: Wed Apr 22 16:38:58 EDT 1998

Another song:

Oru sandhana kattukullae Music IR.

I forgot the movie, Rajkiran and Sangeetha.

Manjula, Amar, Thalaivaa, Ram:

Idha paarthuttu Sirippu engira word-la
start aagum paadal listing exercise onnu start
seidhu irukkaen, konjam andha pakkam vaanga.
From: kajan (@ ) on: Sun Oct 20 12:10:06 EDT 2002

hello iwant this songs plz Film by Ragasiya police
song by mayilthogai
From: Gopalan (@ ) on: Wed Jun 18 03:57:18 EDT 2003

This is a song from Kandukonden kandukonden

Sandana thendralai jannalgal thandithal nyayama nyayama
From: dada (@ 199.207.253.101) on: Mon Jun 23 15:37:37 EDT 2003

There is a song in IR's villupattukaran , the whole song is sung without the lips touching...
From: Mythila (@ 208.220.245.72) on: Tue Jun 24 08:23:15 EDT 2003

In the film NilaveMugamKaatu,there is the song 'thenralai kandu kol maane' sung by Hariharan. Towards the end of the song, there is a sanskrit sloka sung by IR , overlapped by female chorus singing some Tamil verses in a completely different melody, yet creating a scintillating feeling. I have not heard any song with this kind of effect.
From: Prabhu (@ 203.199.143.149) on: Wed Jun 25 07:33:29 EDT 2003

Good thread!!
(hope my post appears in bold for the first time in this forum :))

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