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IR Vs ARR - Emotion of the songs

Topic started by Raghu (@ 203.200.198.9) on Fri Oct 17 02:31:02 EDT 2003.
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I want this thread to be a decent IR Vs ARR debate. I want to make a list of songs that leave a very powerful emotional impact and compare the creations of IR and ARR. To begin with we can start with the emotion of sorrow / sadness. IR has a few really strong candidates starting from his very first movie. ARR has his powerful chakravaaham from Muthu.

Sondhamillai bandhamillai - Annakkili
Amma nee sumandha pillai - Annai oar aalayam
Thaayundu thandhai undu - Koyil Kaali

Vidukadhaiyaa - Muthu

One to be in one of their better frames of mind to be able to withstand the onslaught of these songs.

Let the healthy IR Vs ARR debate begin

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• From: raj (@ 211.29.136.12) on: Sat Oct 18 03:22:22 EDT 2003
  
  How abt Kalai nera poonguyil - amman kovil kilakaley... with spb's greatest voice and ir's beautiful music it is one of the best happy listening song.ithayam oru kovil, thendral vanthu enai thodum - thendraley enai thodu by KJJ another one.
  
  
• From: srina (@ 61.1.205.143) on: Sat Oct 18 04:13:52 EDT 2003
  
  my choice of IR emotion music:
  1.kannae navamaniye[en bommukkutti ammaavukku]
  2.thaalaattu maari ponathe
  3.the BGM in aboorva sagodharargal, kamal in the register marriage of roobini.
  
  
• From: Mythila (@ 203.200.33.65) on: Sat Oct 18 09:22:09 EDT 2003
  
  x, "poongaatre" and "ullathil nalla ullam" share the same raagam. "Poongaatre" is definitely not even inspired , leave alone copy from "Ullathil".
  There are countless songs from IR which bring one close to mother nature . My hand picked songs are
  Malargalil aadum ilamai pudhumaiye (Kalyanaraman)
  Solai kuyile kaalai kadhire
  Poove pani poove - Nilavu suduvadhillai
  Illamai ullam - replete with chirps of birds from Paadum paravaigal. I would say this song falls under a rare genre where it starts off as a pleasant song with sweet chipper and chirrups of birds which later turn into eerie shrieks.
  
  
• From: Piratheepan (@ 67.67.90.87) on: Sat Oct 18 13:14:01 EDT 2003
  
  i think both are equal when it comes to pulling the masses and heart strings which is why they stand out compared to the rest.
  
  some of ARR
  
  bgm of KM
  the bit songs of boys-jail gana and when harini leaves
  jeans- when they find out aish lied
  pachai kilagha tholadu-indian
  kaparaya poyachu-indian
  just too many really
  
  IR
  sethu-pretty much all the songs except the gana number
  sundhari-thalapathy
  piraye-PM
  song that piraye came from dont kno the song but it was good too
  azhage
  would name others but im of the ARR generation dont kno the names of many IR songs
  
  
• From: magix (@ 219.65.109.157) on: Sat Oct 18 13:22:39 EDT 2003
  
  Is this Raghu aour old SPB fan??
  if yes.. Hi!!
  if no.. well, hi anyway! :)
  
  
• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.210.33.7) on: Sun Oct 19 05:10:10 EDT 2003
  
  nature,
  
  ithu oru ponmaalai pozhudu...
  senthazham poovil
  senthoora poove
  
  
  
  
• From: raj (@ 211.29.136.12) on: Tue Oct 21 09:23:47 EDT 2003
  
  If you count the bit songs and bgms then IR is uncomparable with arr. IR is far ahead from arr. kathaluku mariyathai, padikathavan, heyram, Nayagan, thalapathy, aboorva sagotharargal etc etc.. countless.
  
  
• From: SK (@ 205.188.208.73) on: Fri Oct 24 22:38:45 EDT 2003
  
  thiNdAdudhey reNdu kiLiyE--IIR
  sengAtthE--ARR- tajmahal
  
  and, who can forget that memorable from IIR---ammAvendrazhaikkAdha uyir yillaaiyE---mannan
  
  Let the list build up!!
  
  
• From: Mukka poolan (@ 24.98.53.83) on: Sat Oct 25 00:04:44 EDT 2003
  
  The guy or gay started this thread?
  
  want this thread to be a decent IR Vs ARR debate. I want to make a list of songs that leave a very powerful emotional impact and compare the creations of IR and ARR. To begin with we can start with the emotion of sorrow / sadness. IR has a few really strong candidates starting from his very first movie. ARR has his powerful chakravaaham from Muthu.
  
  Sondhamillai bandhamillai - Annakkili
  Amma nee sumandha pillai - Annai oar aalayam
  Thaayundu thandhai undu - Koyil Kaali
  
  Vidukadhaiyaa - Muthu
  
  One to be in one of their better frames of mind to be able to withstand the onslaught of these songs.
  
  Let the healthy IR Vs ARR debate begin
  
  
  This is my words dont compare Ilayaraja(he is the god for music enjoy his music in Pithamagan) with any other (3/4).
  
  
  
• From: zameer (@ 219.92.140.128) on: Sat Oct 25 01:32:01 EDT 2003
  
  ilayaraja suttele 2 otteya
  
  
• From: shafik (@ 219.92.140.128) on: Sat Oct 25 01:32:47 EDT 2003
  
  ar rahman is the best
  
  
• From: SK (@ 64.12.96.41) on: Sat Oct 25 14:13:13 EDT 2003
  
  LOts of such good threads die becuse of some people with filthy languages which serve no purpose other than killing the spirit of the thread. They must be ashamed for this and the way they express their perversions. Do decency and decorum have no place to survive?
  yindha nacchup paambukaLaik kandavudan kallaal aditthuk kolla vENdum!!
  
  "thirundhaadha uLLangaL yirundhenna laabam?"
  [yidhu kooda oru emotional song thaan!!]
  
  
• From: SK (@ 64.12.96.41) on: Sat Oct 25 14:13:24 EDT 2003
  
  LOts of such good threads die becuse of some people with filthy languages which serve no purpose other than killing the spirit of the thread. They must be ashamed for this and the way they express their perversions. Do decency and decorum have no place to survive?
  yindha nacchup paambukaLaik kandavudan kallaal aditthuk kolla vENdum!!
  
  "thirundhaadha uLLangaL yirundhenna laabam?"
  [yidhu kooda oru emotional song thaan!!]
  
  
• From: JPM (@ 193.201.231.126) on: Sat Oct 25 16:30:02 EDT 2003
  
  for sad AR Rahman songs, Velli Malare is my favorite. Its a very sorrowful song sung well by SPB and Mahalakshmi with equally involvuing interludes. The Hindi version is good as well with Sonu. The instrumental version surely gets me emotional.
  here r some more sad sounding songs not listed above.
  Yendhan Vaanil (Kadhal Virus)
  Oh Vennila (Kadhal Desam)
  Thendrale (Kadhal Desam)
  Katru Kudhirayile (Kadhalan)
  Azhage Suganma (Parthale Paravasam)
  En Mel Vizhunda (May Madham)
  
  but the Bombay Theme takes the cake i think.
  
  For Ilayaraja,
  Solli Solli (Senthamizh Pattu) is an absolute classic.
  Vettaruva Thangi/Vaanam Thottu (Devar Magan) is another.
  Anbana Thayai Vittu (Mahanadhi) There r 2 more in the movie also worth mentioning.
  Kodyile Malligai Poo (Kadalora Kavidhaigal)
  Koondukkulla (Chinna Gounder)
  Chittukku Chella Chittukku (Nalavanukku Nallavan)
  O Thendrale (Sandhana Katru)
  Chinna CHinna Rosapoove (Poovizhi Vasalile)
  
  and how can we forget Chinna ThayavaL (Thalapathi)? What a song. It has brilliant interludes. Thats my favorite of all time.
  
  
• From: MKBalan (@ 24.98.53.83) on: Wed Oct 29 18:17:04 EST 2003
  
  Dey sk,
  Nee oru Moonda Koo.. da. Zameer ongot...a soo..la check pannu
  
  
• From: Anbe sivam (@ 24.184.29.127) on: Wed Oct 29 19:50:06 EST 2003
  
  Guys,
  
  Somebody said Poongaatre Nillu is inspired from Ullathil Nalla Ullam. But I feel Vidukadhaiyaa from Muthu has heavy inspiration from Ullathil Nalla Ullam in the Pallavi. If you notice you can go from one song to another in Pallavi.
  
  Anybody think the same way I think?
  
  
• From: Musio (@ 210.210.32.70) on: Mon Nov 3 02:52:11 EST 2003
  
  Most of IRs tunes are naturally melody. But ARR makes a song to play slow to make it a melody. Correct it if I am wrong.
  For eg. 'Ammavendrazhaikkatha', Povama Oorkolam', 'Engey Sellum Indha Paadhai', 'Metti Oli..' etc are quite fast at the same time melodious. But 'Vidukadhaya..', 'Narumugaye..'a song from Kadhal desam (forgot the lines) etc are just slow & beautiful numbers but cannot be taken as a typical melody.
  IR follows a 70:30 ratio (where 70% are Emotional) whereas it is 30:70 for ARR)
  
  
• From: curses (@ 219.65.109.48) on: Mon Nov 3 10:46:10 EST 2003
  
  Musio..
  Listen to Tamizha thamizha (Roja), Bombay Theme, Title song in Kannathil Muthamitaal, Yedho yedho in E20U18.
  
  
• From: Osho (@ 203.197.136.34) on: Mon Nov 3 11:09:04 EST 2003
  
  Curses,
  Apart from the Vellai Pookkal, i cant really say that Tamizha Thamizha is a great song. One song you left out is "Uyirum Neeye" From pavithra(I Guess!!) , the best song for me from ARR up to date. Thats a terrific song, one i often find ARR fans miss to add it as one of his greatest!.
  
  We have to ask ARR, why he hasnt been able to deliver that kind of rocking song full of emotions. Hmmmm, to me as a tamilian, i want songs that are reflection of my culture and not global music as some of his fans say. Although i am not completely against that either. A few here and there would be fine.
  
  

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