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Topic started by RV (@ nat-20.avanticorp.com) on Tue Mar 10 20:13:07 EST 1998.
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Yodelling is rather difficult. As far as I know only Kishore Kumar in several Hindi songs has done it very well. Probably Chandra Babu could hv done it and I am sure SPB could do it. Are there any instances of yodelling in Tamil songs ?

Responses:

From: Ramki (@ 141.218.188.189) on: Tue Mar 10 22:00:13 EST 1998

LRE,SJ
From: e.hari (@ ww-tf02.proxy.aol.com) on: Tue Mar 10 22:33:19 EST 1998

in the film, kanimuthu papa, the song
'kalangele, kalengele' by SPB. Music by
t.v.raju. SPB did a good job.
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Tue Mar 10 23:07:17 EST 1998

Hari:

To add, that song (and the movie situation) were
copies of a similar song from a Hindi movie
starring Rajesh Khanna and Hema Malini (RK dies
in an accident).. I forgot the name of the movie.
Comparing the songs, I felt Kishore did a much
better yodelling than SPB.
From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9) on: Wed Mar 11 00:16:26 EST 1998

SK

I think it is Andaaz.
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Wed Mar 11 00:45:38 EST 1998

Thanks Aravind. Enna romba naaLaa kaaNOm indha pakkam?
From: RV (@ nat-20.avanticorp.com) on: Wed Mar 11 12:47:51 EST 1998

I think the Kishore song is Zindagi Ek Safar Hai Suhana. Movie is Andaz starring RK, Hema and Shammi Kapoor. Music by Shankar Jaikishan.

Ramki: Can you give some songs by LRE and SJ ?
From: Pagalavan (@ bbn-cache-4.cisco.com) on: Wed Mar 11 14:13:03 EST 1998

RV

The male voice in the interlude of malareNra karuvaNdu sirikkattum (ALR?). Does this qualify in this category? The same thing was reproduced in one of the iruvar songs also, I think.
From: RV (@ nat-20.avanticorp.com) on: Wed Mar 11 14:31:58 EST 1998

Pagalavan: Absolutely! That was a marvellous piece of yodelling. Was that ALR ?

I dont know the Iruvar one.
From: chandru (@ sdwwwgw01.sd.nmp.nokia.com) on: Wed Mar 11 15:33:57 EST 1998

yodelling na innappa? konjam sollungallen !!!
naanum ethavathu kandu pudikka mudiyuthanu paarkiren. nanri in advance
From: Amar (@ worf.qntm.com) on: Wed Mar 11 16:23:01 EST 1998

RV, that yodelling in the song "Malarenra Mugamonnu Sirikkattum" is MSV in "Kaathalikka Neiramillai" - LRE sings the song.

ALR does some yodelling in the song "Paarthathum Aavalai Tharuvathu Azhaghiya Pengaley" from "Naan Yaar Theriyuma?" ( Jaishankar - Bharathi starrer ) and the other main singer of this song is TMS.
From: Amar (@ worf.qntm.com) on: Wed Mar 11 16:24:28 EST 1998

Also, the yodelling in "Iruvar" that Pagalavan was referring to is "Hello Mr Yethirkatchi" in which you can hear the yodelling in the background.
From: aruLarasan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu) on: Wed Mar 11 16:40:10 EST 1998

hi,

for those wondering what this yodelling stuff is:

yodel means to suddenly change one's voice from normal to a false voice
or vice versa; to sing in a trill (basically shrill vibrations).
As far as I understand this should not be confused with shruthi bEdhams.

I don't know any of the songs listed so far. I would assume SPB
should have given a lot of this stuff. yEmpA amar, ramki et al,
konjam engaLukkum therinja pAdalgaLap pOdungaLEn. :-)
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ synergy.nus.edu.sg) on: Wed Mar 11 20:26:44 EST 1998

Amar:

I think the yoddler* in malarendra mugamindru
sirikkattum is either Sadhan or Saibaba and
not MSV. I don't think MSV is capable of yoddling.
Also, seeing the popularity of that song, Sridhar
asked for a similar song from MSV/TKR in Vennira Adai.
That song is also a very nice one with excellent
yodelling by Sadhan. The song is alliththaNdu
kaalgaLeduththu aattamaadidum; it is sung by LRE.

*Is it correct to call a person who yoddles as
a yoddler?
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ synergy.nus.edu.sg) on: Wed Mar 11 21:33:04 EST 1998

In Petraalthaan Pillayaa, there is a thaalaattu
song: chella kiLiyE mella pEsu. At the
beginning there is a looong tongue-twisting by
TMS, which is very beautifully done; it's something
extremely difficult to repeat. But I am not sure
whether you can call it yodelling.

In the song nEtroru mEnagai indroru oorvasi
(Manmadha Leelai) does AV Ramanan do yodelling?
From: Pagalavan (@ bbn-cache-4.cisco.com) on: Thu Mar 12 01:55:13 EST 1998

RV

There is a SPB solo in karunthEL kaNNaayiram that has good yodelling. I dont remember the pallavi. But the song goes like nee rOmapuri raaNi. etc.,

SK

Is there any yodelling in avaLukkenna azhagiya mugam of server sundaram?. I think it was by MSV. By the way, yes, AVR did yodelling in nEtRoru mEnagai
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Thu Mar 12 02:50:04 EST 1998

Pagalavan:

I don't think avaLukkenna has any yoddeling.

The Karunthel Kannayiram song you are referring
to: Is it poondhamalliyilE oru poNNu pinnaalE?
From: Pagalavan (@ bbn-cache-4.cisco.com) on: Thu Mar 12 10:10:34 EST 1998

SK

Thanks for avaLukkenna clarification. Yes, the SPB song that I was referring to was poonthamalliyilE. Thanks.
From: Kanchana (@ ww-tc02.proxy.aol.com) on: Thu Mar 12 22:31:37 EST 1998

Keerthi, Pags, Amar, RV:
The yodelling in LRE's malarendRa mugamondRu sirikkattum from Kadhalikka Neramillai is by Raju.
From: e.hari (@ 152.163.204.105) on: Thu Mar 12 22:36:39 EST 1998

The yodelling in 'hello mr edirkatchi' is by
rajagopal.
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Thu Mar 12 22:43:00 EST 1998

Kanchana:

Thanks. Yaar andha Raju? I have never heard of him.
From: Kanchana (@ ww-tc02.proxy.aol.com) on: Thu Mar 12 22:58:25 EST 1998

Keerthi:
Kadhalikka Neramillai title credits-il Raju-nnu mattumthAn peyar pOttirundhadhu. I also remember one MSRaju who used to do interlude hummings--same guy, possibly?
From: Odal (@ bones.deneb.com) on: Fri Mar 13 02:20:13 EST 1998

Yodal endra vArthaikku Tamilil
"ULaiyidal" (nari kathirathunga) enbathu sariyA ??

"kulavai" pOdurathu oru vagai yodalling ??
(lots of IR songs for poNNu vayasukku varrathu + pongaL scenes)

yAr sonnA MSVku yodal varAthunnu ?
"siva sambO" song ends with "sabara subara....."

yodalil innoru vagai - Udalin yodel
(athAvathu asaiva kAthalargaL - kaNNa pinnA moodil irukkum
pOthu - Udalil kathuvathu)
IR's imagination with SJ's voice - in
"nilAk kAyuthu nEram nalla nEram"

innoru vagai is "modhalil yodel", love paNNa Arambikkum
mun usualA hero heroine pAdum
"vevvE vovov" enbathu.
"Ada sarithAn pOdi vAyAdi, saNdaikku neeyA sari jOdi"
(from poova thalaiyA)
From: Amar (@ worf.qntm.com) on: Fri Mar 13 10:21:46 EST 1998

Kanchana, thanks for the clarification. I know of a song by LRE where MSV does some yodelling. If it is not this song, could it be "Muthamidum Neiramippo, Unn Mugham Thottu Kathai Sollum Neiramippo" from "Sivanthemunn". I vaguely remember some "Oolaiyidalling" in that song. Anybody with more memory of the song???
From: Pagalavan (@ bbn-cache-4.cisco.com) on: Tue Mar 17 02:08:36 EST 1998

Amar

I too remember yodelling in muththam tharum nErameppO.. but dont know if it was rendered by MSV.
From: shawn (@ gateway.conestogac.on.ca) on: Sun Oct 18 15:40:55 EDT 1998

I am looking for yodelling wav files
From: Murali Sankar (@ 129.252.23.156) on: Wed Oct 21 19:42:21 EDT 1998

I seriously do not know if this fits here, but still. The song "Naaldhorum" from Devadhai and "iniya malalrgal" (in the second interlude, I premise) have IR singing beutifully in false voice. The former resembles yodeling more than the latter.

Regards

Murali Sankar
From: Murali Sankar (@ 129.252.23.156) on: Wed Oct 21 19:43:24 EDT 1998

I later is in "Poonthottam"
typo: beautifully
From: Ray (@ spider-tp043.proxy.aol.com) on: Mon Apr 26 07:18:24 EDT 1999

Could any body explain me what is Yodelling and where it come from?
From: Dorai (@ gateway7.ey.com) on: Mon Apr 26 14:13:03 EDT 1999

Ray,
I am quoting below an explanation of Yodelling from an earlier post.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
From: aruLarasan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu) on: Wed Mar 11 16:40:10 EST 1998

hi,

for those wondering what this yodelling stuff is:

yodel means to suddenly change one's voice from normal to a false voice
or vice versa; to sing in a trill (basically shrill vibrations).
As far as I understand this should not be confused with shruthi bEdhams.

I don't know any of the songs listed so far. I would assume SPB
should have given a lot of this stuff. yEmpA amar, ramki et al,
konjam engaLukkum therinja pAdalgaLap pOdungaLEn. :-) <<<<<<
From: Sriram Lakshman (@ ifmxlenx.na.informix.com) on: Mon Apr 26 16:01:39 EDT 1999

SPB yoddled beautifully in "Margazhip paniyil mayagiya nilayil" from "Muthana Muthallavo". The song "Ada Yennada pollatha Vaazhkai" ends with a yoddle. SPB does a half-yoddle in the superb number "keLadi yen paavaye" from "Gopura vaasalile". This IMO, is more difficult , than a normal yoddle. Listen to this song and you will appreciate the way SPB reverts to singing in his normal voice at the end of the charaNam.

PS did some yoddling in "Yenna Yenna vaarthaigaLo" from "VeNNiraadai" when she sings "vaarthaigaLo".It is not very conspicuos in a melodious female voice.
From: rameshb (@ stagfw.thehartford.com) on: Mon Apr 26 16:11:12 EDT 1999

Sriram L,

do you remember the beginning of 'ammAdi poNNukku thanga manasu' from rAman eththanai rAmanadi. I think MSV does some stupendous yodelling! P. susheela's 'vAtthaigaLO... ' may be the result of a 'semitone' and not necessarily an intended yodelling.
From: rameshb (@ stagfw.thehartford.com) on: Mon Apr 26 16:11:31 EDT 1999

Sriram L,

do you remember the beginning of 'ammAdi poNNukku thanga manasu' from rAman eththanai rAmanadi. I think MSV does some stupendous yodelling! P. susheela's 'vArthaigaLO... ' may be the result of a 'semitone' and not necessarily an intended yodelling.
From: karthi (@ titanic.theatrium.net) on: Thu Apr 29 23:55:10 EDT 1999

Here I am with a PS number:

'Kaadhalikkak KatrukkoLLungaL' - a duet by TMS-PS from Deiva Magan has both yodelling in the end of the song - the one by PS is just great!!!
From: Kumar (@ ) on: Fri Dec 29 00:16:59 EST 2000

L.R. Eswari is less talked about here. How many times, she has yodelled beautifully .
"Naan oru kadhal sanyasi...Oor vittu oor sellum ullasiiiiiiiieeeaeee". and many such yodellings.
Her voice is also well suited for yodelling
From: esha (@ 193.113.185.132) on: Mon Jan 8 13:37:32 EST 2001

say whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat????????
From: sup (@ 140.239.176.134) on: Wed Jan 31 03:03:28 EST 2001

u are all nuts
From: dude (@ 209.181.86.140) on: Tue Jan 15 21:50:16 EST 2002

h-e-l-l-o
From: Sreedhar (@ 24.30.132.23) on: Thu Feb 6 01:25:26 EST 2003

'Kaadhalikkak KatrukkoLLungaL' - from Deiva Magan has some male yodelling in the beginning of the song, too. Don't know if it is TMS.
From: Sreedhar (@ 24.30.132.23) on: Thu Feb 6 01:48:43 EST 2003

There is some beautiful (female) yoddling in this song also: Thudikkum Karangal [83]- Dir CV Sridhar - Sandhanam poosa manjal nilavum -SPB,? - Music: SPB.
From: Patty (@ 24.239.172.60) on: Sat May 3 15:47:53 EDT 2003

I am looking for a hindi movie song on saibaba which is sung by a female singer. It was famous in 1982-85. I do not remember the words but if I listen i will defintely identify it. One of the sentence from the song is
"saajan bina suhaagan my aisi ahagaan oh baba saia baba"
Thanks for helping me to find it.

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