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Gavin Greenaway and Danny Elfman - drawing from Ilayaraaja?

Topic started by Ilayaraaja inspired Hollywood composers (@ 67.28.30.203) on Sat Apr 27 00:01:39 EDT 2002.
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Gavin Greenaway is someone to watch out for. He has a thrilling score for The Time Machine 2002. I feel the finale is very Ilayaraaja. (In fact, could have been an IR tune itself, I am trying to scan my database!) Just like how i think Danny Elfman's Men In Black theme draws a lot from IR tunes and style. Another comparison is the Star Wars Phantom Menace finale by John Williams. Actually the only two composers who really could be secretly admiring IR. For more of Gavin Greenaway, try to get hold of his composition for the Millenium Parade at Walt Disney Studios. It is a beautiful beautiful tune, chorus and great percussion sounds! It is called Tapestry of Nations and Tapestry of Dreams! Actually some of it is in the Time Machine.

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• From: IR-Fan (@ 202.41.117.3) on: Sat Apr 27 22:20:04 EDT 2002
  
  There is a Robin Williams starrer with score by Elfman - listen to the title score - appadiyey vintage IR style guitar usage
  
  
• From: pardhu (@ 202.54.26.125) on: Sat Apr 27 23:57:43 EDT 2002
  
  Great...really great...here comes an Indian composer
  whom the hollywood get inspired from.
  Hats Off to the Maestro.
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 210.186.51.195) on: Sun Apr 28 00:54:26 EDT 2002
  
  OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  
  
• From: ambleen (@ 202.156.2.138) on: Sun Apr 28 09:10:27 EDT 2002
  
  Halo 'Ilayaraaja inspired Hollywood composers',
  
  Hmmm, forgive me if i'm referring to the wrong movie but the THE TIME MACHINE(2000) is scored by Klaus Bandelt. In fact his title theme is a dead ringer to Goldmith's THE EDGE. Totally! :)
  
  As for SW:TPM, when it was released, there were many in TFM circles saying how much the music in the ending ceremony ('la-la' music) resembles that of dearest maestro's trademark established like 20yrs ago! Another dead ringer!! Well who knows what other surprises we'll have in SW:AOTC :)
  
  IR-Fan,
  The music you are refering to, is it from Good Will Hunting? I have already realized long ago that many of Elfman's chorus and certain pieces have IR's trademarks.
  
  For those who are quick to dismiss it(as usual) here is the substantiating link. Listen to the guitar piece and the humming chorus. When listening, have IR in mind. Just don't get blown away.
  http://flam.pair.com/elfman/audio/gwh1.ram
  
  
• From: Ilayaraaja, How will the world enjoy thy genius? (@ 65.56.133.147) on: Mon Apr 29 01:50:37 EDT 2002
  
  ambleen, check out the very recent 2002 film The Time Machine! The finale flute piece will interest you.
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Tue Apr 30 07:08:38 EDT 2002
  
  This might not be exactly relevant, but here goes...
  
  http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/articles/2001/29_Nov---Ethploitation_The_Use_of_Ethnic_Film_Music.asp
  
  It also quotes Danny Elfman's music for Goodwill Hunting at one point! And makes for interesting reading!
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Tue Apr 30 07:10:18 EDT 2002
  
  Oh sorry. It was Danny Elfman's score for 'A simple plan' that this article talks about, not Goodwill Hunting.
  
  
• From: db (@ 208.51.40.107) on: Tue Apr 30 14:36:15 EDT 2002
  
  Danny Elfman has also scored the ever popular simpons theme.
  
  some more info on him.
  
  2001 Spy Kids
  2000
  The Family Man
  Proof of Life ***
  1999
  Sleepy Hollow
  Anywhere But Here
  Instinct
  My Favorite Martian
  1998
  A Simple Plan
  A Civil Action ***
  Psycho (music by Bernard Herrmann)
  Modern Vampyres (The Revenant)
  1997
  Flubber
  Good Will Hunting
  Men in Black
  1996
  
  Freeway
  The Frighteners
  Extreme Measures
  Mars Attacks!
  Mission: Impossible
  1995
  Dead Presidents
  To Die For
  
  1994
  Black Beauty
  Darkman II: The Return of Durant (themes only)
  Dolores Claiborne
  Shrunken Heads
  1993
  Army of Darkness
  The Nightmare Before Christmas
  Sommersby
  1992
  Batman Returns
  1991
  Article 99
  Pure Luck
  1990
  Darkman
  _Dic_k Tracy
  Edward Scissorhands
  NightBreed
  1989
  Batman
  1988
  Beetlejuice
  Big Top Pee Wee
  Hot to Trot
  Midnight Run
  Scrooged
  1987
  Summer School
  1986
  Back to School
  Wisdom
  1985
  Pee Wee's Big Adventure
  Forbidden Zone
  
  For TV
  =======
  Amazing Stories: Mummy Daddy 1985
  Amazing Stories: Family Dog 1985
  Alfred Hitchcock Presents: The Jar 1985
  Sledgehammer 1986
  The Simpsons 1989
  Tales From The Crypt [HBO]
  Pee-Wee's Playhouse
  Oh No, Not Them [MTV]
  The Flash 1990
  Beetlejuice [animated]
  Batman [animated] 1992
  Perversions of Science [HBO] 1997
  Dilbert [animated]
  
  
• From: IsaiGnani, Only a Matter of Time! (@ ) on: Wed May 15 22:20:18 EDT 2002
  
  Surprise, Surprise, Surprise! Gavin Greenaway apparently is paying some form of tribute to Ilayaraaja. Look at this one: Walt Disney Records Presents Walt Disney World "Millenium Celebration" album composed for the Millennium Parade at WD theme parks was composed by Gavin Greenaway. I saw the "Tapestry Of Nations" parade (45 mins) and I was totally bewildered by it (since 2001, it is shorter and called Tapestry of Dreams), the most beautiful ever - what enchanted me was costumes, the stilted butterflies, the sage of time, the several carriage of drums and the amazing amazing rhythmic percussion for that score. Since I saw this, I wanted to own the album, finally got it today. Okay, here is the surprise.
  
  The album starts off with a very apt piece and from where? It is the prelude percussion phrase for Happy New Year Illamai Idho Idho song from Sakala Kala Vallaban . A non-IR fan couldn't have seen the relevance of the piece for the Millenium Celebration theme! But, an IR Fan or more precisely a Tamilian will see a little more in the album. The main theme (track 3) starts off with a few Tamil words in the background - I recognized "Yenna Pannuradhu!!!" there was something like Ila... Pola or something, there is a little more but soft and not that audible (it is like the words by AR Rahman for a second interlude for Taramapam song.) But, the great thing is track 3 starts off with Tamil words and only Tamil words! Ends with some Sitar sounds!
  
  Third fact is the chord arrangements are so IRish. Amazing! you can immediately recognize this influence as well. The tune for part 3 is very charming, a pallavi type slowed down theme and recurring. But, sounds African.
  
  (By the way, Greenaway and Elfman have worked together on Elfman's albums. Greemaway is only around 35 years.)
  
  Another coincidence, this album was recorded by the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra in London. Strange isn't it? IR did his symphony there and now a possible fan who is a composer for Hollywood wants to record this with the RPO?!
  
  Get hold of the album (on sale in Amazon.com, but new one is $30 and not easily found) only if you have been to the parade, because there is only very little music to enjoy - but if associate it with the parade it remains in your mind.
  
  We must all thank God for we get so much music in a 5 minute song of IR, but others' even if they take 45 minutes they can only do so much to fill 44 minutes!!! Good attempt by Greenaway, however, it is only the percussion that will blow you away.
  
  But, the great thing is 'Millenium Celebration' music by THE Walt Disney studios starts off with the a touch of Ilayaraaja! What more to say! The Millenium kicks off with the sound of the Maestro and his language!!!!!
  
  
• From: Vj (@ 203.197.20.43) on: Thu May 16 00:33:15 EDT 2002
  
  that was very nice to hear... atleast lets hope that those guys concerned (including Gavin) will accept it and appreciate IR officially. that wd do a lot of gud for IR and a lot more for Indian music.
  
  
• From: Vj (@ 203.197.20.43) on: Thu May 16 00:33:51 EDT 2002
  
  surprisingly no comments from ROTFL further..???
  
  
• From: KITKAT (@ 65.92.2.88) on: Thu May 16 16:26:14 EDT 2002
  
  Haiya,
  I found the millenium album in morpheus. 33,624 kb!!!
  
  Only one user had it, now 2 including me.
  
  
• From: just found in ag (@ 162.84.245.20) on: Thu May 16 18:39:19 EDT 2002
  
  it is all over in audiogalsxy, check out
  
  
• From: AG (@ 162.84.245.20) on: Thu May 16 18:40:21 EDT 2002
  
  sorry, typo, www.audiogalaxy.com
  
  
• From: JULIE (@ ) on: Mon Sep 6 07:29:26 EDT 2004
  
  HELLO MY MATES!!!
  WHATS GOING ON??? :P
  OXOX FROM ME! ;P:P
  
  
• From: madhankumar.m (@ ) on: Tue Oct 12 05:07:01 EDT 2004
  
  i madhan is a great fan of isaignanai ilayaraaja..i was so much inspired by the devotonal album of raaja named "ilayaraajavin geetha vazhipadu"...i searched everywhere for its's c.d .but got only the cassette of it...so if u have the c.d version of it,plz say me where to get it or where to download it..
  my e-mail: madhan_sa@rediffmail.com
  
  

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