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Identical Orchestration for Identical Situation (IOIS) kind Raja Songs!

Topic started by Fliflo (@ 130.203.167.21) on Fri Nov 30 19:13:54 EST 2001.
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I was hearing to "Vilakku Vaipom...Vilakku Vaippom" (Aatma) and happened to notice a similar orchestration in few other songs having a similar situations..some to name are "malaikoil vaasalile" (veera) and "Aasaia Kaatrile Thoothu Vittom (Jhonny). I am sure many might have had this in their minds. To our surprise, the tunes appear rather different from one to other..One othe example is, Othadi...Othadi (donno) is similar to Annathe Aaduraar othiko..Othiko (AS)..Occasionally, I hear an "identical orchestration for identical situation (IOIS) songs, which I can not bring it out suddenly..I am sure other fans wud have paid more attention to this..Let me learn from what others observe and think about it...

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• From: eden (@ 210.214.4.47) on: Sat Dec 1 00:29:06 EST 2001
  
  the interludes of `poongAtRu thirumbumA' & `nAnAga nAnillai thAyE' have similar `feel' (I cannot say whether they orchestration is`identical' or `note-for-note')
  
  
• From: no jalra (@ 61.11.74.10) on: Sat Dec 1 04:51:04 EST 2001
  
  raaja is simply great. he makes his own copies.
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 130.203.164.193) on: Sat Dec 1 08:04:36 EST 2001
  
  no jalra...ungalukku intha threadle romba velai illennu nenichen....mele olunga padicha intha problem varaathu....
  
  
• From: mahabs (@ 203.197.138.163) on: Sat Dec 1 08:57:22 EST 2001
  
  it is better to make one's own copies than to make copies of other's copies.
  
  imho, when situations are same, the songs sound similar.
  
  anbudan
  
  mahabs
  
  
• From: no jalra (@ 61.11.74.10) on: Sat Dec 1 09:36:07 EST 2001
  
  by the way my friends,
  what is ur opinion on western music critics rejecting our maestro isaigani's symphony ?
  
  and
  
  arr getting into andrew loyod webber and michael
  jakson.
  
  waiting for ur esteemed views.
  
  
• From: conphused (@ 216.196.152.230) on: Sat Dec 1 09:44:58 EST 2001
  
  arr got into weber and jackson? what??? che!
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 130.203.167.215) on: Sat Dec 1 09:49:24 EST 2001
  
  I think a gross background of movie knowledge is mandatory for this kinda discussion. For example, when son had to think about mother's sacrification of her own life in bringing him up, songs such as "amma enazhikkatha" (mannan), "amma, amma enthan aaruyire" (uzhaippali) flashes in readily. The usage of array of violins and other right choice instruments bring in the mood of what we have to feel. A person, who hasn't even tasted about this scenario, like many viewers sit infront of the wide screen, get a feel of it..Only an extraordinary mind such as Raja's can do this without much of experiments...Many other situation songs like funeral, marraige, love, sad solos..etc..etc do have similar giant touches of Raja in them...I am sure there are several well informed people in this forum, who can enlighten this thread by contributing their intelligent observations and thoughts here....
  
  
• From: uv2 (@ 65.102.228.39) on: Sat Dec 1 10:21:49 EST 2001
  
  Fliflo,
  A very good thread indeed. I certainly enjoyed reading your posting. Well I would like to mention one more piece of situation where Maestro scores over all. That is scoring music for situations involving a kid(like Kutti in the film Kutti) or an innocent man(like Nasser in avatharam) so on. He really comes with a great THULAL feeling in the music for certain scenes. Those who have seen Kutti would appreciate the "Poo arumbuthu" song...Enna thullal....antha innoncent manasin thullal antha music il irunthathu. Maestro certainly scores over everyone. He uses similar kind of score to express this innocence.
  
  As he had said aptly in one of his "Raaja vin Paarvai" article (titled "Naan ninaipathum, nee nianipathum) about composing the music for a particular scene, read it here.
  http://www.raajangahm.com/raajapaarvai18.html
  
  
• From: uv2 (@ 65.102.228.39) on: Sat Dec 1 10:23:50 EST 2001
  
  REQUEST to no jalra, and similar mindset people,
  Please do not spoil the thread if you can't contribute. I respect your ideas about Maestro Ilayaraaja, do respect our ideas too...
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ 172.150.246.3) on: Sat Dec 1 16:49:32 EST 2001
  
  "vanthatheeey " by SJ in Kizhaku Vaasaaal
  "Chinna Chinna " by SJ in Mouna Ragaaam
  "Senthoora Pooveey " by SJ in 16 vayathineeleee
  
  
• From: MPR (@ 172.137.193.106) on: Sat Dec 1 17:53:11 EST 2001
  
  'oh hO mEgam vanthathO' - mouna rAgam
  'vAn mEgam' - punnagai mann
  
  

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