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Nice effort from YSR

Topic started by Anand Mahadevan (@ alproxy2.proxy.lucent.com) on Fri Apr 28 09:59:09 EDT 2000.
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Guys,
I chanced upon this number
http://tamilclub.com/songs/ithayame-india/song3.ram

Refereshing stuff from YSR.

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Responses:

• From: Neels (@ 202.54.125.228) on: Fri Apr 28 12:49:50 EDT 2000
  
  The song is based on the famous Aabhogi Varnam, 'Evvari BOdana'.
  The interludes are good, but could have been given some 'Azhuttam'! The instrumental pieces are heard somewhere in a distant background. (a la ARR).
  
  Who's the female voice? Bombay Jayshree?? Her rendering wasn't very soothing to the ears.
  
  Neels
  
  
• From: Balaji (@ webproxy06qfe0.sbi.com) on: Fri Apr 28 13:32:33 EDT 2000
  
  Neels:
  
  == Digression ==
  I didn't answer you previously.
  SVS may have done a little overacting(though not like other actors of the 60s), but the image created is difficult to erase. No idea who acted as Sellamma.
  
  === end digression.
  
  This songs looks very filmish(???). I think it is UK & Nityashree.
  
  Balaji
  
  
• From: chandy (@ ws025038.coba.siu.edu) on: Fri Apr 28 15:58:11 EDT 2000
  
  Neels, I agree with you.
  
  The YSR's song is a blatant take off from the abohi varnam and words have been "thrust" into the tune.. especially with words like "raama raama". I couldnt get the lyrics at the first listening, but they seem to have been "thrust and fitted into" the tune, and also all the swarams have been generously borrowed from the original spource. The song is a disgrace to TFM.
  
  Wish YSR learns some creativity and non-copy code from his father and follow his footsteps.
  
  Its surprising how famous carnatic singers like UK and Nitysri (who would certainly know the fundamental source of this song) agree to sing such stupid numbers.
  
  chandy
  
  
• From: Anand Mahadevan (@ alproxy2.proxy.lucent.com) on: Fri Apr 28 16:10:02 EDT 2000
  
  Chandy,
  If one can accept "Alyaipayuthe" rendered with synth beat and someone here had even rated it 8/10, am not sure why you should call this a disgrace to TFM. This seems to be a biased opinion. I liked the insturmentation and probably Nithyashree's singing seems a lot to be desired. Overall a different song and a nice attempt.
  
  
• From: chandy (@ ws025038.coba.siu.edu) on: Fri Apr 28 16:17:16 EDT 2000
  
  Anand,
  
  Please understand the difference between taking the original song as it is.. and giving it in a nice package... and lifting a song, thrusting some new lyrics, that too in a most stupid manner.
  
  Alaipayuthe didnt murder the original lyrics and did not spoil the original song... It was rendition of old song as it is with extra instrumental additions...
  
  Look at "yochana kamala lochana" in sindu bhairavi or "brocheva" in Sankarabharanam....Look at nee dayaraadha in Sindu bhairavi.. that attempt by IR was good. It was giving the old tune, in a slightly different package, with instrumental additions.
  
  This YSR song is definitely not to classified with brocheva, alaipaudhe and such numbers. The YSR song seems to be a very cheap imitation of its original. It shows lack of creativity and desparateness to compose something "classical".. Another song which is similar to this ramma raama YSR song is a number on "namadhu nagaram - Calcutta" sung by UK which is just a direct take off of the famous carnatic keertana "ragu vamsa sudha". That song is another disgrace to TFM!!!
  
  chandy
  
  
  
• From: bb (@ charger.crhc.uiuc.edu) on: Fri Apr 28 16:24:34 EDT 2000
  
  if the song is maama maama srihari rama, it is not a song of TFM. it is from the album blast, sung by UK and nithyashree. the song has horrible lyrics. it roughly goes like,
  maamaa maamaa srihari raamaa,
  scooter mEla beach pOyi varalaamaa.
  Enmaa Enmaa kOchukkalaamaa
  petrol velaiyum romba Erudhu aamaa..?
  the song is not even worth discussing, IMO:-)
  
  
• From: Anand Mahadevan (@ alproxy1.proxy.lucent.com) on: Fri Apr 28 16:26:49 EDT 2000
  
  Chandy,
  In ARR terminolgy,we can call it inspiration.Well, I definteltly wo'nt agree with you when you said that "Alaiapayuthe" was'nt murdered. I for one was totally offended by the synth beat and it really sucked.
  
  
  
• From: chandy (@ ws025038.coba.siu.edu) on: Fri Apr 28 16:42:50 EDT 2000
  
  bb, may be its the song from blast album
  
  Anand, if you find this YSR song as creative, that's your opinion. According to me, the song STINKS!! You knew the classical alaipauthe song and the synth beats offened you when you listened to the song in its new avatar. But, have you listened to the original source of the YSR song...?? the abohi varanm?? and the similar "namadhu nagaram - cacultta" song and
  its original "ragu vamsa sudha"? Try listening to the originals and try comparing it with the new, lifted ones.
  
  
• From: srikanth (@ 216.190.255.35) on: Fri Apr 28 17:04:55 EDT 2000
  
  "namadhu nagaram - cacultta" -- I think it by mani sharma
  
  
• From: Swami. (@ wp3.ericy.com) on: Fri Apr 28 17:05:33 EDT 2000
  
  Chandy avargale,
  Song stinks, Cheap imitation...........konjam words a carefulla use pannanlame. That guy has a lot of competence and maybe this song is a blah blah to you. Even if a composer has blatantly copied, let's try to understand one thing; He/She has done what we have'nt (maybe some people in this forum like done ad composed songs like Srikanth). Please for heaven's sake, try to respect the composers and register our comments in a nice way.
  
  
• From: srikanth (@ 216.190.255.35) on: Fri Apr 28 17:11:46 EDT 2000
  
  chandy I feel there is no harm is using a classical song, if it is used in the right way...IMHO, arr has used it well
  
  btw:anand what do you mean by synth beat ?
  
  
  
  
  
• From: srikanth (@ 216.190.255.35) on: Fri Apr 28 17:18:12 EDT 2000
  
  after hearing this songs, this is nothing great..singers sings as though they are in great hurry...words like buget are cut short in pronounciation...totally lacks melody...some grooves come in from somewhere...
  
  we can see clearly see YSR is confused..fails badly in fusion. Lyrics...I dont call this as lyrics. not worth...discussing...
  
  
• From: Anand Mahadevan (@ alproxy1.proxy.lucent.com) on: Fri Apr 28 17:20:32 EDT 2000
  
  Srikanth,
  I was referring to the beat which follows the "Alaipayuthe" song from the movie "Alaipayuthe".
  The song has been rendered with absolute no change to lyrics or melody except for the beat which follows the song, which I think is one of the many samples which ARR has at his disposal. It did'nt sound appropriate to me, or probably ARR was forced into this due to movie situation. Anyway, it did'nt appeal to me.
  
  
• From: srikanth (@ 216.190.255.35) on: Fri Apr 28 17:24:02 EDT 2000
  
  ok anand, i am clear..
  
  infact in this YSR album 90% is sample...synth beats
  
  
• From: haris. (@ inet-fw1-o.oracle.com) on: Fri Apr 28 17:33:26 EDT 2000
  
  Swami,
  
  He/She has done what we have'nt
  
  this argument is obviously invalid. you cant praise somebody because they are doing something you are not.. if they have faired well in their job.. they deserve. otherwise NO.
  
  
• From: Diwakar (@ 206.175.177.136) on: Fri Apr 28 18:02:59 EDT 2000
  
  It is clearly the Abhogi varnam with some stupid lyrics. Even the mukthayi swarams are the same.
  
  What one does not know if this is a pitiful attempt at composing for an equally pitiful situation in the film!
  
  Now that YSR has got the ball rolling, can others ( you-know-who :-) ) be far behind with such blatant plagiarism?
  
  
• From: bb (@ grieg.crhc.uiuc.edu) on: Fri Apr 28 18:11:03 EDT 2000
  
  diwakar, again, this is not for a film. this is from the album blast. please continue discussions here:
  http://newtfmpage.com/forum/26908.22.36.14.html
  
  

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