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KJY and SPB: who is better?

Topic started by vetrivel (@ 164.100.73.34) on Fri Mar 26 03:19:44 EST 2004.
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THIS question is like "apple, or orange, which is better/tastier?". i would say it depends on your taste. the following are my observations.
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1. SPB is more popular.
2. KJY is more melodious.
3. Versatality: KJY is more versatile because he has made the crossover (thought to be impossible)between classical-light musical genres. this versatality was totally devoid of artificial devices (e.g. throwing the voice, mimicking etc). he excelled in classical/ semi classical/ devotional/ melodious/ light music genres.
4.SPB's versatality is more evident/visible to the public, because he excelled in melodious and fast/folk numbers, for which there is a wider audience. in this he is non-pareil. but there is something steriotype in this versatality (never mind the contradiction), because it is achieved by the same device viz., a light chuckle as he sings along, and a tremendous, creditable skill in mimicking. KJY could not sing such songs for life.
5.KJY should be assessed for songs upto 1996, except for some flashes of brilliance in the following period. mind, he is pushing 65 (sunder, age, not illness of throat is the reason). SPB is 7 years younger, and is still going strong, even better than earlier.
6. SPB could have been a classic singer if he trained, but now it is too late.
7. KJY has sung over 1000 songs in TAMIL (including non-filmi bathi padalkal. you can buy these 1000 songs in two paperback volumes on payment stalls anywhere in Taminadu). out of this around 400 songs were only average. 300 songs will last as middling hits. around 200 are immortal, will be around after say, a century.
8. SPB sang around 3000 songs (average output of 100 songs per year spanning 30 years). out of this, around 1000 songs were average. around 1800/1900 were middling hits which would last. around 200 are immortal, will be around after say, a century.
9. SPB is a singer in the dominant TFM or true TAMIL tradition (despite his roots), whereas KJY is not.
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i do not venture to say who is better (orange or apple ?).
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vetrivel

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Responses:

• From: Raghu (@ 193.129.245.198) on: Fri Mar 26 07:48:09 EST 2004
  
  Vetrivel,
  
  There is already a thread discussing the same topic, why another thread ?? :))
  
  well, any way, my opinion is as follows
  
  SPB >= M.rafi > KJY > Kishore > TMS > Jeyachandran
  
  if you want we can discuss the unique skills of each artists!
  
  
• From: subramanian (@ 61.11.88.220) on: Fri Mar 26 08:23:42 EST 2004
  
  SPB is versatile. KJY is core competence
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 193.129.245.198) on: Fri Mar 26 08:40:15 EST 2004
  
  Subramaniam;
  
  In What way is KJY more competence than than SPB???, pls elaborate
  
  
• From: vetrivel (@ 164.100.73.34) on: Fri Mar 26 09:34:07 EST 2004
  
  Raghu (@ 193.129.245.198),
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  to answer your question: the other thread has developed into something more like a quarrel among kids, full of certitudes instead of opinions... hence, this new thread.
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  vetrivel
  
  
• From: harikrishnan (@ 155.69.5.223) on: Fri Mar 26 10:02:26 EST 2004
  
  The undisputed King of Indian film music is none other than Yesudas!. I don't speak out from worship but form facts. KJY has sung almost 40000 songs (in all languages). Judging based on Tamil songs alone is truly impartial. It should be based on songs in all the languages (else the world best Tamil film singer is appropriate). Yesudas's hindi film songs are all superhits. Jab deep jale... and Gori tera... will leave everyone spellbound. Listen to "Kalaivaniye" in Tamil would be worth before debating on the versatlity.
  
  I agree that in Tamil, SPB is more popular than KJY. This is beacuse of the interset of Tamil audience to go for folk tunes.
  
  Overall my rating is like this,
  
  KJY>RAFI>SPB>Kishore>Jayachandran.
  
  
  
  
• From: MusicIsLife (@ 170.146.91.6) on: Fri Mar 26 13:59:56 EST 2004
  
  FYI
  KJY in one of the interviews said.. he adores and loves Rafi for his sheer versatility
  Balu calls KJY Anna!!
  
  So let us stop this argument and enjoy their music this topic is not a worth one to discuss
  
  
• From: AV (@ 132.206.72.62) on: Fri Mar 26 14:38:06 EST 2004
  
  "KJY has sung almost 40000 songs (in all languages). "
  
  There is no evidence for this number. All Indian artists have got into the habit of exaggerating the number of songs they have sung. Such numbers have value only when the songs are actually counted and their statistics (MD, singer name, lyricist name, recording year and company etc) are systematically documented.
  
  
  
• From: yazh suthakar (@ 203.145.181.43) on: Fri Mar 26 16:12:51 EST 2004
  
  spb...nalinam konjum nandhavanam.
  yesuthas....sangeetha saamaram veesum madhura manthiram.
  intha iru imayangalum oppattavarkal.
  sangeetha arbuthangal.
  iruvarum oruvarukku oruvar kurainthavarkal alla.
  rasiga nenjangalil yentrum nirainthavarkal.
  intha oppatta amudha arbuthangalai oppida mudiyaathu...
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 193.129.245.198) on: Mon Mar 29 04:21:32 EST 2004
  
  vetrivel (@ 164.100.73.34),
  
  Ok, thanks for the clarification.
  
  AV;
  
  welcome back after a longgggggggg time!
  
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 193.129.245.198) on: Mon Mar 29 04:28:49 EST 2004
  
  Harikrishnan,
  
  With Due respect to the great legend Dr.KJY, he never ever sang 40,000 songs, this is NOT true!, only SPB holds the record for singing the highest number songs in the world, Dr.SPB name is already in the guiness book of records, it is probably in the 2002 release!
  
  KJY though been in the busineess at least 4 years b4 SPB, could not have ever sung that many songs, reason being, is that.
  
  KJY ruled Kerala, While SPB ruled, TN, Karnataka & Andhra, SPB was far more famous up in North, compared to KJY!
  
  Music is life,
  
  >>KJY in one of the interviews said.. he adores and loves Rafi for his sheer versatility
  Balu calls KJY Anna!! <<
  
  That's true, SPB also adores Rafi, he greatly respects KJY & KJY also greatly respects SPB, infact, it is Dr.BMK & Dr.KJY are training Dr.SPB for carnatic concerts!
  
  

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