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IR's record- is it worth a GUINNESS recognition ???

Topic started by s arun (@ hide195.nhs.uk) on Sat Jul 15 18:59:36 EDT 2000.
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Dear friends,

People like Lata Mangeshkar have found their way into the 'Guinness book of records' for a feat that is unrivalled or unique.

Does IR not qualify for such recognition for his unparalleled contribution to the film world and for having composed music for the maximum number of movies???

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Responses:

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• From: vazhukkai (@ proxy.krdl.org.sg) on: Sun Jul 16 00:22:52 EDT 2000
  
  mottai: are you trying for some Guinnes record :)
  
  
• From: Vijay Venkatraman J (@ 202.9.176.109) on: Sun Jul 16 02:38:51 EDT 2000
  
  Hi Friends,
  Everyone knows that He is worth!!! Can anyone help in negotiating the matter with the Guinness people?
  Yours,
  Vijay.
  
  Please join Maestro Ilaiyaraaja Fans Club at:
  http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/maestroilaiyaraajafansclub
  
  
• From: J shaves (@ spider-wn052.proxy.aol.com) on: Sun Jul 16 11:11:29 EDT 2000
  
  Maybe Mottai has `not' composed the maximum number of songs. When the guys at Guinness can find out some unknown guy who has the a problem scratching (because of his nails), mottai's contribution is not the highest in terms of numbers.
  
  
• From: Naveen (@ dot.icn.state.ia.us) on: Sun Jul 16 13:22:41 EDT 2000
  
  MSV has composed music for more than 1100 films.
  
  
  
• From: pg (@ bronx-ip-7-107.dynamic.ziplink.net) on: Sun Jul 16 14:10:52 EDT 2000
  
  "MSV has composed music for more than 1100 films."
  
  Please support this statement by listing all the movies. I will accept this if you list at least 750 films.
  
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.22.9) on: Sun Jul 16 14:55:04 EDT 2000
  
  The only person who may put an end to this unanswered question of whether MSV had done music for 1000 and odd films is Mr.Manisegaran. Mani, r u here ?
  
  
• From: G (@ dsl-64-34-176-129.telocity.com) on: Sun Jul 16 16:31:43 EDT 2000
  
  Deva will soon break all the records. What is the point?:-)
  
  
• From: mottai (@ tide79.microsoft.com) on: Mon Jul 17 00:22:14 EDT 2000
  
  MSV is jst around 350-400!!!!
  
  
  
• From: eden (@ 61.1.250.134) on: Mon Jul 17 01:02:50 EDT 2000
  
  G!
  That's impossible considering that Deva is currently 300 films old and there're not so many films being made and released each year now...in addition, he doesn't have an overwhelming market share either...In copying? May be:-)
  
  Others:
  What feat of Raja needs to be listed in Guinness? Let's talk specifics before asking them to include his name...
  
  
• From: Kamesh (@ 203.106.109.101) on: Mon Jul 17 01:26:12 EDT 2000
  
  Needed a government certificate to authenticate the feat.
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ alc123.alcatel.be) on: Mon Jul 17 04:23:08 EDT 2000
  
  I agree what naveen says.
  I don't know the exact number. In a music program, SPB told that MSV had composed more than 1000 movies.
  Try to beleive SPB.
  He has composed more than 15000 songs. This was also told by SPB in the same program.
  If IR fans have doubt, confirm with IR.
  
  
• From: Rajesh (@ 203.126.228.21) on: Mon Jul 17 04:29:45 EDT 2000
  
  I don't think so, it is worth a Guinness recognition, realy it is not. Might be it was (it will be definitly not) some of his fans recognition.
  
  
• From: eden (@ 61.1.250.165) on: Mon Jul 17 05:22:26 EDT 2000
  
  G Ragavan!
  `epporuL yAr yAr vAykkEtpinum apporuL
  meipporuL kANbathaRivu' -ThirukkuRaL:-)
  
  
• From: eden (@ 61.1.250.165) on: Mon Jul 17 05:26:43 EDT 2000
  
  Another funny thing, Ragavan; this is mathematics:
  15000/1000=15! 15 songs per film?:-)
  
  
• From: eden (@ 61.1.250.165) on: Mon Jul 17 05:36:40 EDT 2000
  
  Kamesh!
  Without offence meant to any individual, IMHO, the so called Govt. cert. is probably one of the cheapest things in our country to obtain:-)
  
  
• From: Neels (@ 203.199.65.140) on: Mon Jul 17 05:56:35 EDT 2000
  
  I remember reading on the sleeve of IR's "How To Name It" where a western musicologist (forgot his name) has mentioned that IR has composed music for a RECORD 700 films. Remember, this was way back in '87.
  Hey Ram was his 786th, I think.
  There's no other MD who has composed music for so many movies. And MSV has definitely not composed for 1000 movies, even including those with his partner Ramamurthy. This is no way belittling his contribution to Tamil Film Music.. I am only presenting facts here.
  
  Also, I am not very clear about Lata's record. Hasn't SPB surpassed her number?
  
  
• From: eden (@ 61.1.250.203) on: Mon Jul 17 08:43:36 EDT 2000
  
  Once again, let's get to facts, Neels, IR hadn't done even his 400th film in 1987:-)
  
  However, he has crossed the no. 730 in 1997 and I have the list of the names of the 730 movies. It is quite possible that HR is 785th... But is this no. a world record? Can't say whether there are taller claims from others...
  
  
• From: anban (@ 139.85.161.162) on: Mon Jul 17 13:11:09 EDT 2000
  
  hey eden
  
  anjali was IR'S 500th film
  so obviously he must have crossed atleast 850 by this time
  
  
• From: anban (@ 139.85.161.162) on: Mon Jul 17 13:11:56 EDT 2000
  
  Neel
  u are right
  spb has surpassed latha's record
  
  
• From: eden (@ 61.1.250.155) on: Mon Jul 17 23:46:23 EDT 2000
  
  anban!
  No way - I can send you the .xls file of 730 films till mid 1997 if you can give your mail ID:-)
  
  
• From: Neels (@ 203.197.45.60) on: Tue Jul 18 06:47:22 EDT 2000
  
  OK eden,
  When do you think IR's HTNI got released?
  And NBW?
  
  
• From: Jee (@ 193.188.124.130) on: Tue Jul 18 07:39:34 EDT 2000
  
  Before Veedu (Year 1988) released :-)
  IR used lot of tracks from HTNI --> Veedu
  
  For complete IR filmlist refer to http://www.raaja.com (Discography section). Please include Karisa kaattu poove in that list.
  
  
• From: VS (@ wwwgate32.motorola.com) on: Tue Jul 18 11:47:58 EDT 2000
  
  Just for an info, guys...
  
  From 300 onwards :
  300 : Udhaya Geetham (1984)
  350 : Amman koil kizhakkaale (1985)
  400 : Nayakan (1987)
  450 : ??
  500 : Anjali (1990)
  600 : Devar magan (1992)
  
  Ninaive oru sangeetham (1987) was announced as his 401st film and Jagadeka veerudu...(1990) was announced as his 501st film.
  
  
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Tue Jul 18 12:28:23 EDT 2000
  
  vs,
  it wasn't ninave oru sangeetham but sollath thudikkuthu manasu that was announced as his 401st film. in fact, i remember IR giving a talk on AIR about the film's songs
  
  
• From: Shankar (@ cbin-dns.cisco.com) on: Wed Jul 19 05:35:08 EDT 2000
  
  Viswa,
  
  oru mail adippA....
  
  sorry for the digression, folks...
  
  
• From: karthi (@ 1cust218.tnt3.providence.ri.da.uu.net) on: Wed Jul 19 21:25:32 EDT 2000
  
  IR? Guinness Record? May be yes just in terms of number of movies. NOT IN TERMS OF RESOUNDING NUMBER OF SONGS.
  
  
• From: karthi (@ 1cust218.tnt3.providence.ri.da.uu.net) on: Wed Jul 19 21:27:51 EDT 2000
  
  Lata Mangeshkar innum Guinness record vechirukkaangaLa? I though SPB broke her record!
  
  
• From: Srinath (@ 63-217-90-105.sdsl.cais.net) on: Wed Jul 19 22:42:38 EDT 2000
  
  Karthi:
  Perhaps PS should be named in the Guiness for the having the most fanatical fans.......no wait ! IR has broken even that record !!! IR Rules ;-)))
  
  
• From: nvd (@ bkj-cache80.jaring.my) on: Thu Jul 20 01:59:08 EDT 2000
  
  Karthi,
  
  Guiness record is meant for the number of movies in which IR has rendered his music in form of songs or BGM alone. So, the quality of the music is not of question here. In fact, I can bet that there's something soul-feeling in every movie of IR..at least one perfect/good song plus the outstanding BGM!!! Tell me if there is any other guy in ASIA who have done this..???!?! But pity IR that at His peak time, no one has that level of publicity which ARR is enjoying now, or else IR might be in LONDON now, hehehe...!:-)
  
  
• From: s arun (@ hide195.nhs.uk) on: Thu Jul 20 18:44:10 EDT 2000
  
  Dear Mr.Karthi,
  
  You sound 'shocked' in the way you ask -IR? Guinness record?
  
  Do you know that the Guinness book even recognises ridiculous & distasteful things like the guy who ate the maximum number of cockroaches in 1 minute?
  
  Your subsequent statement in 'capitals' is totally unwarranted. It reflects your 'pathetic' ATTITUDE.
  
  
  
• From: eden (@ 61.1.250.129) on: Fri Jul 21 08:25:22 EDT 2000
  
  http://aaraamthinai.com/cinema/july0021/news06.asp
  Looks like IR is not serious about the number (qty) game anymore:-)
  
  

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