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Tempo changing songs

Topic started by rajeshrs_tvm (@ 202.88.237.35) on Wed Feb 25 08:51:55 EST 2004.
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Pls let me know the songs which changes its tempo.
latest:
Saaregaamae
Boom Boom
I think Rahman is the one who uses it constantly...egs:
-Hamma Hamma
-Vandhe Mataram

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I dont remember any IR songs..:(

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Responses:

• From: C~P (@ 61.95.159.16) on: Wed Feb 25 09:24:03 EST 2004
  
  Maya Maya from Baba
  
  
• From: sats (@ 139.177.224.101) on: Wed Feb 25 09:47:54 EST 2004
  
  "ramaranalum babaranalum " from Hey Ram , the tempo changes towards the tag end of the song.
  
  
• From: (^!^) (@ 208.24.179.28) on: Wed Feb 25 10:19:01 EST 2004
  
  umm...tempo change nu thalaippu pOttuttu, scale change aara songs Oda list tharaangaLE? :-)
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 192.76.80.74) on: Wed Feb 25 11:04:10 EST 2004
  
  we can find many of the classical, kind of kutchery songs, by IR has the second charanam turning into fast numbers (eg. nee pourNami, vAedham nee).
  
  can we call them as tempO changes?
  
  if im not wrong scale change (crudely) means change of raaga of the song, and i don't think in the above-mentioned examples raaga of the song changes. so i felt it could be tempO change.
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 192.76.80.74) on: Wed Feb 25 11:05:31 EST 2004
  
  tempO....grr....indha transliteration-la aezhudhi aezhudhi english word-aiyum 'transliterate in english' paNNittAen.
  
  
  
• From: Raj (@ 208.164.98.89) on: Wed Feb 25 11:11:35 EST 2004
  
  Rajesh: If you want to see (hear) tempo change listen to Muthuswami Dikshithar compositions.
  Alai Paayudhe by Oothukkaadu is one example. I don't know any cinema songs.
  
  
• From: C~P (@ 61.95.159.16) on: Wed Feb 25 11:32:14 EST 2004
  
  ella edathilayum Kuzhapparthukku Kupps dhaan muthal aala vandhu nikkaraar!
  
  Kupps,
  naaney aadikku one time ammavaasaikku one time topic related-a post panraen...adhu porukkaliya ungalukku?! :-)
  Ippo somebody clarify...what does Tempo change mean? Tell, tell tell tell, talk me! I say just for FUN!
  the song which I mentioned, I thought the speed changes and that's what I took the topic to mean...Damn you Kupps!! :-D
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 68.16.25.50) on: Wed Feb 25 13:13:35 EST 2004
  
  The "yelamarak kaattukulla" song from Nadodi Thendral, if I remember right, picks up on tempo in the second charanam from the second interlude onwards and finishes at a super fast pace.
  
  Hamma Hamma - scale change, not the tempo.
  
  
• From: Thiru (@ 210.214.128.30) on: Wed Feb 25 14:43:12 EST 2004
  
  Yaradi nee mogini is a great song that changes tempo.
  
  
• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.3.16) on: Wed Feb 25 15:40:07 EST 2004
  
  'rakku muthu raaku' frm yejamaan
  'rajadhi raja un thandirangal' frm mannan
  'rakkamma kaiya thattu' frm thalapathi
  'engae enthan kaadhali' frm enakkul oruvan
  'kadaloram kadaloram''frm anandha raagam
  ithellam Auto changennu sollidatheengo kupps. appadinna Tempo changenna ennannu sollungo modalla.
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Philosopher (@ 65.170.153.7) on: Wed Feb 25 16:37:22 EST 2004
  
  IR has done a lot of "tempo songs" - One song that comes to my mind is
  
  "Vaadi en Kappa Kizhange" - I think this is a
  classic and may be one of the first in TFM
  
  Unfortunately, since in this song and many others
  IR implements tempo change and other western
  elements blend into indian/folk, common listeners
  fail to notice and appreciate the western elements
  blended in.
  
  On the other hand when some songs are composed with an intention to create "look alikes" of MTV/western pop songs, they are recongnized as
  "aha, western song with tempo change"...
  
  In fact, the opposite should be true..it takes more creativity to blend western elements in and
  make it look seamless than compose a tamil song
  in English stereotyping one of the zillions of pop songs out there...
  
  My 2 Cents....
  
  
• From: * (@ 161.114.64.75) on: Wed Feb 25 17:04:34 EST 2004
  
  idhazhil kadhai ezhudhum - stunning improvisation
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 192.76.80.74) on: Wed Feb 25 19:10:04 EST 2004
  
  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
  and i don't think in the above-mentioned examples raaga of the song changes
  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
  
  the above-mentioned examples are nee pourNami, vAedham nee (these two songs are mentioned by me).
  
  i too am eager to know what is tempo change and what is scale change.
  
  
• From: rags (@ 63.100.100.5) on: Wed Feb 25 20:18:17 EST 2004
  
  Kupps
  Tempo Rate of speed or pace of music.
  Scale A series of tones or pitches in ascending
  or descending order.
  
  
• From: rags (@ 63.100.100.5) on: Wed Feb 25 20:19:44 EST 2004
  
  Good example for Tempo change :Alai paayuthe song
  Scale change: I guess , oru deivam thantha poove from kannathil muthamittal has Scale change.
  
  
• From: rags (@ 63.100.100.5) on: Wed Feb 25 20:23:52 EST 2004
  
  Also take Poove semboove song, Song oru pacela irukum interludes in different pace.This could be another example for tempo change.
  
  
• From: rags (@ 63.100.100.5) on: Wed Feb 25 20:27:14 EST 2004
  
  Another example for scale change:Smaiyaai song. Towards the end, they sing Smaiyaai in different scale.
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 24.0.232.135) on: Wed Feb 25 23:04:03 EST 2004
  
  so then does my two examples ("the above-mentioned examples") fall under tempo change category?
  
  
• From: C~P (@ 61.1.201.214) on: Wed Feb 25 23:28:06 EST 2004
  
  Another one...
  Thaniye Thannanthaniye from Rhythm
  
  Here it is not the tempo of the singing that changes. The singing and the interludes have different tempo.
  
  

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