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Another Kamal Movie for IR family

Topic started by Pozhudhu pogadhavan (@ 12.92.218.217) on Fri Apr 20 13:30:08 EDT 2001.
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Kamal - Singeetham Srinivasarao Combo is going to do next movie for Panju Arunachalam.

Probability of who is doing music may be YSR 70%, KR 20% and IR 10%.

Source: http://www.dinakaran.com/weekly/tamil/velli/2001/Apr/20/super.html

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• From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.183) on: Fri Apr 20 13:49:34 EDT 2001
  
  Which means, again a commercially flop picture from Kamal. Isn't it?
  Last few commercial flops of Kamal( as hero) + IR (also family)
  
  Hey Ram
  Mahanadi
  I don't remember many now?
  
  
• From: Swami (@ 63.97.162.18) on: Fri Apr 20 14:04:47 EDT 2001
  
  Mahanadi ---> One of the best movies in the 90's (the BEST) and of course great songs unmatched even today.
  
  
• From: UVII (@ 63.224.65.186) on: Fri Apr 20 17:51:50 EDT 2001
  
  CF,
  Why last few films of ARR+Kadhir are also flop...what stops Kathir to go back to ARR?
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ 12.47.56.254) on: Fri Apr 20 18:32:41 EDT 2001
  
  CF..... idhu LOL..... u call Hey Ram and Mahanadhi as Commercial Film ?????? and i thought Mahanadhi - though not a supurb hit, ran to an extents isn't it ?
  
  
• From: Anbu (@ 12.92.215.222) on: Sat Apr 21 11:09:29 EDT 2001
  
  Will be an another Michael Madhana Kama Rajan.
  
  
• From: rajavisiri (@ 213.237.22.198) on: Sun Apr 22 01:12:22 EDT 2001
  
  Hi guys
  you scould also remember that it was exactly the same combo that make one of the milestone movie "Aboorva Sakotharargal"
  
  
• From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.183) on: Mon Apr 23 10:31:03 EDT 2001
  
  UVII:
  
  Your record is wrong. Kadalar dhinam was a big hit and its songs are popular even today.
  Earlier movie kadal desam was also a big success (though the hype made by kunjumon made the expectation very high) and also its songs were real hits.
  Yes, their first movie Uzhavan was a flop.
  
  Okay.. If you see my posting, then I will realise that I have mentioned only COMMERCIAL SUCCESS.
  Mahanadhi and Hey Ram are my faveroits and I have seen Mahanadhi four times in total (Twice in theater)
  
  Swami:
  
  Mahanadi ---> One of the best movies in the 90's (the BEST) and of course great songs unmatched even today
  
  Might be your personal opinion. But, songs of mahanadhi were just ok, but also is the fact that the film did not have great scope for beutiful songs.(Sriranga... is simple but good number).
  
  The best thing I like in Mahanadhi is its camera and the editing (probably..). From one sceen to another the transition used to be simply superb. I was very different and even today not many films follow that technique.
  
  
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 202.169.139.40) on: Mon Apr 23 11:34:37 EDT 2001
  
  Common Friend.,
  I agree that 'Kadalar Dhinam' Songs were very popular (No.1 in SunTV Yearly Top 10), But I don't think the movie was a commercial suceess. Otherwise, Kadhir would have got n number of movies with him :-)
  
  The movie was a flop in tamil, telugu and Hindhi. Thats why it took so long for Kadhir to get another movie - that too under his own production.
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.183) on: Mon Apr 23 12:45:08 EDT 2001
  
  NagaS :
  Okay. I don't beleive much from Sun TV ratings. But, KD was a real hit. Kathir takes long time between films. After Kadal desam he took nearly a year and a half to do KD (I think). I have seen an interview of kathir in Vijay TV and also a program (function) celebrating its 100th day.
  
  
• From: kk (@ 198.4.92.5) on: Mon Apr 23 13:17:12 EDT 2001
  
  Common friend,
  Please go back and listen to 'Pongalo Pongalo' song again, Would get such rural feel in any song?.
  How about 'Peigala nambathe?'. As such the song doesnt appeal us because we are used to only love solos and love duets. But give the situvation it was so good.
  And there is this unused song thats used a BGM peice in movie when kamal meets suganya in jail. This song was so differnet.
  
  It might be your opinion, but just passing a comment like 'jusk ok' with out looking back, realy hurts. Judging Mahanadi kind of music by
  todays std of one heroine intro song, one hero despo song, two catchy duets & one 'item' number doesnt make sense.
  
  
• From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.183) on: Mon Apr 23 13:33:53 EDT 2001
  
  KK:
  'Pongalo Pongalo'
  'Peigala nambathe?'
  I don't say that they are bad. They are just a kind of songs which you hear in the theatre and forget the moment you come out of it. Infact, the film would't have done even drastically commercially, had the songs been not there in the film. These songs made no difference to the actual effect of the film.
  For a film like mahanadhi, songs are a curse, because majority of people will not accept a film as film without songs. Kamal is suffering a lot because of the concept of film songs. You have to forcefully make them fit into the film.
  
  
  
• From: kk (@ 198.4.92.5) on: Mon Apr 23 14:34:45 EDT 2001
  
  CF,
  I dont think songs are bad in any kind of movie.
  except may be thrillers. Song and music is a tool. It has to be used when needed not forced.
  There is nothing like there has to be 3 stanza and one pallavi for a song, it can be used effectively as in Mudhal mariyadai as bit songs & parts. Just because non-indian films dont know how to use it, it doesnt mean its a bad concept.
  If not for songs, as elite lobby suggests we wouldnt be discussing it here.
  
  For ex.
  Pongalo pongal songs - show the atmosphere Kamal's family used to live in. It would take a half and hour time if has to be shown in scenes and dialogues. May be for your taste its forgettable, I could remember the interludes.
  Where else can we use our traditional folk/kummi pattu style in movies so effectively?. Same peigala nambade shows the family environment and how kamal takes care of the motherless kids.
  What is so forceful here? Give me some example for such scenes and so called effective songs made so far.
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134) on: Tue Apr 24 01:23:09 EDT 2001
  
  right kk...
  
  songs convey more messages/environment of story in 5 mins otherwise, in many situations, it would need more time to show same. imho mahanadhi songs were examples of this.
  
  however duet songs in love movies where the hero and heroine suddenly transport themselves to switzerland or newzeland, jumping and pumping their fist on imaginary pistons in air, in the middle of the road are utter useless, idotic and stupid digression to the core.
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 202.169.139.40) on: Tue Apr 24 04:38:22 EDT 2001
  
  kk,
  
  I think you are talking about 'thuvakkam enge' - sung by SPB and SJanaki, Wonderful song with good lyrics by Vaali.
  
  My Favourite in Mahanadhi is 'SriRanga Nathanin Patham' as everybody pointed-out, Look at the song which lasts less than four minutes and you are clear about the hero and his family. Excellent song used in opt situation.
  
  Where is that director SanthanaBharathy now ???? I see actor SanthanaBharathy in lot of TV serials, But the director in him is totally lost I think. :-(
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: Kannan (@ 194.201.128.5) on: Tue Apr 24 07:12:38 EDT 2001
  
  CF...
  i don't totally disagree with u ...
  
  however, it is worth noting that these day songs are used only (atleast in majority of the films) to cast away the hero & heroine to some fancy location thats totally unrelated to the story line. moreover they r just another way of showing the amount of wealth pumped into the so called budget of film production.
  
  Music for a movie is supposed to blend in with the situation so that it can portray the true essence of the subject. The extent to which it is used these days is uncompromising nonetheless deeply annoying.
  I am not questioning the ability of any MDs as they all seem to have a reason(????)to what they do, regardless of the fact as of how many of us do buy their excuses.
  
  But let alone who composed, the musical score in movies like Mahanadi and heyram r of exceptional quality and had the power to iduldge the audience in the movie. Fair enough the MD doesn't always produce a super hit but atleast he knows how to capture the essence!! and we should commend him for that, rather than excercising our personal judgement....
  
  >>Naga S
  the feeling is mutual... Sandhana Bharathy is duly missed.. and some of his movies (definitely not all) r indeed really good when the combo is with Kamal
  
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 202.169.139.40) on: Tue Apr 24 08:00:33 EDT 2001
  
  Kannan,
  I remember 5 movies by Sandhana Bharathy
  
  1. Panneer PushpangaL (With P. Vasu)
  2. GuNa
  3. Chinna MapLe
  4. Mahanadhi
  5. ViyatnamColony
  
  Any more are there ? He also worked as Assistant Director in 'HeyRam'
  
  I liked both his movies with Kamal, He is sort of director who understands what kamal wants and gives him that chance ! Treat is for us viewers,
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: Singaram (@ 12.92.217.75) on: Tue Apr 24 10:33:08 EDT 2001
  
  NagaS,
  
  few more,
  
  6. Kadamai Kanniyam Kattupadu
  7. Kavalukku Kettikkaaran
  8. Sathyaraj Roja Starrer with MSV-TKR music
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 202.169.139.40) on: Tue Apr 24 11:00:30 EDT 2001
  
  Thanks Singaram,
  
  Are you sure about 'Kavalukku kettik kaaran' That looks like an odd man out :-)
  
  I think 8. is 'Engirunthoo Vanthaan'., I am doubtful about this movie also, Is it by SanthanaBharathy ?
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.183) on: Tue Apr 24 12:02:16 EDT 2001
  
  Kannan:
  
  I don't even appriciate the music as an element in the film Gentleman. Does any of the songs fit with the situation. It is not the MD's mistake but the film itself had not scope for real , essential song. But Gentleman was a real hit musically and also is my faveroit. What iam saying is for films like mahanadhi which deals with some thing which is very realistic for us, songs spoil the whole show.
  But, take the film Mudal mariyadai. The director of the movie used the songs as a medium which Radha and sivaji used to convey their feelings. In that film the songs finds its right place. I am not against FM, without which this forum would be no where, I just said what I really feel about the concept of songs.
  
  
• From: Kannan (@ 194.201.128.4) on: Wed Apr 25 04:06:13 EDT 2001
  
  CF...
  Like i said earlier.... my comments weren't made 'coz i disagreed with any of what u said... it was simply because I thought it wasn't entirely true..
  
  as for superhit songs and movies.... what i wanted to point out is the trend that TFM has let itself into... i.e musical score is somewhat isolated form the entire film or should i say they r individual albums added along with the movie for purely commercial reasons. As the quality in storyline tends to degrade.... it seems to pave the way for these desparate attempts to get the audience sit through the film with the aid of song numbers.
  
  What u said about mudhal mariyathai... is definitely a true fact... and its an example as of how to use music in films......
  
  also it was not intended to question the quality of songs... but what i am questioning is the relevance of such matters in films these days.. MDs do render unforgettable numbers from time to time... and i guess its a compromise that we have to make to keep on getting them until everyone involved in film production make a turn towards sensibility. (but i guess reality is what matter and thats what feeds every1 involved)
  
  Naga S>>
  
  I might be totally wrong.... but was it SB who directed Punnagai mannan..... he sure acted in it..!!
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 202.169.188.190) on: Wed Apr 25 09:03:53 EDT 2001
  
  Kannan,
  
  Is it a typo ? Punnagai mannan is directed by K Balachandar. Not SB, I don't even remember him in the cast - there is on Meesaikkaarar (Rekha's Father), Is it Santhana Bharathy ???
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: Kannan (@ 194.201.128.4) on: Wed Apr 25 09:37:47 EDT 2001
  
  it wasn't a typo.... it's just me getting confused with producer and director.. however, as far as i know and the way i remember... u'd be quite right to say SB was rekha's father!!!
  
  :) apologies for getting it all mixed up!!!
  
  
• From: Venkatesh (@ 212.72.1.156) on: Wed Apr 25 09:52:13 EDT 2001
  
  Nagas/Kannan
  Rekha's father in PM is Sudarshan (Kannada actor). Acted in lot of Tamil movies.
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 202.169.188.190) on: Thu Apr 26 03:21:58 EDT 2001
  
  thanks venkatesh,
  
  
• From: Kannan (@ 194.201.128.4) on: Thu Apr 26 03:40:49 EDT 2001
  
  :) thanx for the clarification venkatesh
  
  
• From: eden (@ 210.214.5.210) on: Sun Apr 29 06:25:25 EDT 2001
  
  Santhana Bharathy acted (I think) in Sindhubhairavi as the hubby of sindhu's mother.
  
  
• From: VVV (@ 206.49.110.156) on: Sun Apr 29 07:49:47 EDT 2001
  
  eden, that was TS Raghavendar:-)
  
  
• From: Sridhar (@ 203.197.176.140) on: Mon Apr 30 15:21:39 EDT 2001
  
  The reason Mahanadi had such great editing was because it was the first Indian movie to use AVID Technique.Dont ask me what it is(coz I dont know).SB is not a great director, but Kamal might prefer him as he lets Kamal do whatever he feels like unlike Mani or Shankar. Just a slight digression, KB seems to have a lot of movies with dual wives/lovers. Any particular reason? Another Kamal and IR family flop was Kathala(2).
  
  

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