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ARR: Is he successful in composing melodies? ARR: Is he successful in composing melodies?

Topic started by Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on Wed Feb 5 05:29:13 EST 2003.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

ARR melodies have been very few compared to his fast beat, rythamatic songs, some excellent melodies of ARR

1) Kannalane - Bombay
2) Swasame Swasame - Thenali
3) Nee than en thesiya geetham - Parthale paravasam
4) Endhan vanin kadhal nilave - Kadhal virus
5) Uzhundhu vithaikayile - Mudhalvan
6) Pennale pennale - Uzhavan
7) En veetu thotathil - Gentle man

these were some excellent melodies, but still he is no way near IR / MSV when it comes to melodies, any body agree?

No IR/ARR bashing pls, that was not the intentions :)

Responses:

From: Are Yaar (@ 203.115.31.67) on: Wed Feb 5 06:44:13 EST 2003

raghu:
You too?

Don't say that you have not listened to Duet or May madham...come on....again how long will you beat around the same bush.?
From: Ramya (@ 217.44.92.40) on: Wed Feb 5 06:59:14 EST 2003

ARR will never come close to IR in any aspect. Not just in melody songs!
From: C~P (@ 202.9.149.186) on: Wed Feb 5 06:59:57 EST 2003

Poongatrile - Uyire
En Uyire - Uyire
Nenjinile - Uyire
Uyire - Bombay
Anbendra - Minsara Kanavu
Poo Pookum - Minsara Kanavu
Vennilave - Minsara Kanavu
Nathiye - Rhythm
Kaatre - Rhythm
Anbe Anbe - Jeans
Pachai Kiligal - Indian
Minnale - May Matham
Maarghazhi Poove - May Matham
Netru Illatha - Puthiya Mugam
Kannukku Mai Azhagu - Puthiya Mugam
Puhtu Vellai Mazhai - Roja
Kathal Rojavey - Roja
Tamizha Tamizha - Roja
Putham Puthu Boomi - Thiruda Thiruda
Nila kaaigirathu - Indra
Thoda Thoda - Indra
Nenjil Jil Jil - Kannathil Muthamittal
Vellai Pookal - Kannathil Muthamittal
Anjali Anjali - Duet
En Kaathaley - Duet
Enai Kaanavillaiye - Kathal Desam
Roja Roja - Kathalar Thinam
Enna Vilai Azhagey - Kathalar Thinam
Sonnalum Ketpathillai - Kathal Virus
Porkalam - Thenaali
Snehidhane - Alaipayuthey
Enna Seyya Pogirai - Kandukondaen
Kannamoochi - Kandukonden

some of the above may have been aided by beats....but they are melodies nonetheless.....there is this feelin dat he is nowhere near MSV/IR when it comes to melodies coz these days rhythmic songs are more in demand...as a result one is forced to compose such numbers....ARR has himself sed this....he also sed its not too healthy and dat hed like to do more melodies
From: Anbey Sivam (@ 203.106.70.85) on: Wed Feb 5 09:05:51 EST 2003

IR himself cannot touch the feet of MSV when it comes to melodies.
From: Anbey Sivam (@ 203.106.70.85) on: Wed Feb 5 09:12:04 EST 2003

>>>>>No IR/ARR bashing pls, that was not the intentions :)

What a damn outright liar!
This guy who has no spine to speak of, wants to talk of neutrality.
Shame on YOU!
From: purv (@ 205.231.25.15) on: Wed Feb 5 19:32:42 EST 2003

Hi. My knowledge of ARR is very limited when compared to my knowledge of IR. That is because I listen to IR's works far more often than ARR's. In any event, of ARR's works, I like:

Taj Mahal
1. Thiripaatchi Arivaala
2. Eechi Elumichi
3. Kuliruthu Kuliruthu
4. Chotta Chotta
5. Adi Manjakkilange
6. Kizhakke Nandhavanam

Kaathalar Dhinam
7. Enna Vizhai Azhage
8. Roja Roja
9. Nenachapadi Nenachapadi
10. Kaathalennum Therveluthi

Vandhicholai Chinnarasu
11. Parotta Parotta
12. Sentamizh Naattu

Duet
13. Anjali Anjali Pushpanjali

Most songs of Roja, Thaalam, Sangamam, En Swaasa Kaatre, Uyire, etc.

Paarthaale Paravasam-- Azhage Sugammaa, and to an extent, Nee Thaan En Desiya Geetham
From: Lollu Party (@ 61.6.38.132) on: Thu Feb 6 00:03:46 EST 2003

Raghu will never be satisfied until there is daily fightings.

Where is neutralite Prabhu? :)
From: Are Yaar (@ 203.115.31.67) on: Thu Feb 6 02:30:21 EST 2003

Raghu:
See where you have landed. We agree on SPB but totally disagree on ARR..Why..why Raghu? Why...?Badhil sollama naa unna vedamatten aaman? illati SPB threadla un pechchu Kaa.
From: WN (@ 203.24.100.137) on: Thu Feb 6 04:35:10 EST 2003

Raghu's useful threads in this forum are far and few inbetween compared to his dud threads.

1)
2)
(someone do the listing for me)

these were some boring threads, but still he is no way near ambleen/ shanmugham when it comes to crudeness, any body agree?

No raghu bashing pls, tho that was the intentions :)
From: Prabhu (@ 210.214.5.154) on: Thu Feb 6 07:51:09 EST 2003

Is Anbey Sivam Aalavandhan??

Yenge Enathu Kavithai and Yennavale have been missed out by CP. A glance at that list shows majority of those come in the 92-95 period.
Yes, ARR is nowhere near IR/MSV when it comes to melodies. Orchestration wise, he's up there with the best, no doubt about it.

BTW, the latest issue of Outlook refers to Kadhal Virus as a dud album
From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Thu Feb 6 10:01:51 EST 2003

Are yaar;

No I do not want a fight, I am an ARR fan too, but all his melodies seems to have some techo beats, where else , MSV manily used viloins, while IR was very famous for the use of thabla.

If you listen to IR's early melodies and ARR's melodies, IR melodies stands out with time, ARR melodies will be around fdor couple of months, then vanished, but IR/MSV is still very enjoyable.

I know u r hard core ARR fan, pls, understand this is not intended to bash ARR or IR.

No offence dude :-)

WN;

Thanks 4 the support

Prabhu;

thanks for agreeing with me :)
From: Paran (@ 210.193.13.169) on: Thu Feb 6 23:58:48 EST 2003

Melody-le yennapu vearupadu...

it is a melody song...that's all....nothing else

POtikitte padutha yenna, padukithe pottuna yenna..

rendum onne thanepa...
From: abc (@ 203.145.160.224) on: Fri Feb 7 01:46:28 EST 2003

hello guys!
i dont agree with ppl out there, there r lot of songs 2 mention for melodies..

infact the whole album duet ,i listened after a long time with my friends y day...simply superb man... and lot of songs r missed out..in the above list of arr melodies

sugam sugam-- vandicholai chinrasu
musthafa-- kadhal desam
thenkilaku cheemaiilay-- k cheemailay
kanava illay katra-- ratchagan
nenjae nenjae- ratchagan
vellai malare- jodi
poralae- karuthamma
rasathi- thiruda thiruda
kolayile- kadalan
indirayo- kadalan
ennavale- kadalan
malargale- love birds
chitirai- vandicholai chinrasu

listen 2 the above songs and decide guys..infact we should not forget the fact he has composed a lot in hindi too...i have lot more songs 2 say..but no time 2 mention them now....... bye...
From: Are Yaar (@ 203.115.31.67) on: Fri Feb 7 03:13:38 EST 2003

raghu:
Yoou are in SL, I beleive. tell me what you listen in Shakto FM, Suriayan FM and all . Don't tell me that they play only IR songs. I have found very less of IR songs in these FM channels. Also when there is a public demand program, even songs like "Samba Samba" from Love Birds of ARR is asked for. I stick on to these channels most of the times as it gives me so much of relief and chance to here ARR's songs which I might not be able to hear here otherwise.

Anyway, to put things in right picture, all new songs are in demand and VS songs do more rounds now a days...
But the big surprise for me is the demand for Baba songs....
First people should realise that newtfmpage is not the whole Tamil Music listening world. There is a huge world outside that.
From: AY (@ 203.115.31.67) on: Fri Feb 7 03:15:01 EST 2003

>>>Yoou are in SL, I beleive. tell me what you listen in Shakto FM, Suriayan FM and all

read as

You are in SL, I beleive. tell me what you listen in Shakti FM, Surian FM and all

Excuse me for other typos..
From: Prabhu (@ 210.214.4.42) on: Fri Feb 7 05:47:29 EST 2003

Baba was definitely an under-rated album. I thought it was much better than most of ARR's albums in 2K1 and 2K2. That the film bombed took away most of the sheen.
From: Biju (@ 136.181.195.25) on: Fri Feb 7 10:40:23 EST 2003

Prabhu,
So you thot Baba songs didnt reach coz of the movie?
he he..i thot the other way round..:-))
From: Prabhu (@ 210.214.5.129) on: Fri Feb 7 10:53:03 EST 2003

Biju, how many Rama Narayanan movie songs became hits?
Atleast songs like Dipu Dipu made Rajini a 'Pop' Saamiyaar instead of the usual Poochaandy Saamiyaar :-)
From: Biju (@ 136.181.195.25) on: Fri Feb 7 11:23:56 EST 2003

Prabhu,
Nowadays songs and movie's have become completely independent stuffs.Audio gets released much before the movie and the sales of the audio is not affected by the quality of the movie.So even if BABA wud hav been a good movie the audio wud have never made success.Good films doesnt make mediocre songs look good.But on the other hand many mediocre movies have saved their producers both audio wise and theatre collection wise.EX:Chinnathambi,karakatakaran,Kadhalan
From: Vaseegara (@ 203.106.185.60) on: Sun Feb 9 05:46:05 EST 2003

>>>Good films doesnt make mediocre songs look good.

Great analysis.
Now you know why movies like Sethu, Kaasi, Ramana were successful DESPITE the irrelevant and lousy songs.
From: outsider (@ 206.20.111.100) on: Mon Feb 10 02:24:18 EST 2003

The slow melody that comes in about half way through Moonrezhuthu Ketta is absolutely gorgeous. The singing is good too. http://www.tamilbeat.com/newsongs/pp.html
From: Vaitherruchal Thaanga Mudiyavillaiya Kanna (@ 202.95.121.98) on: Mon Feb 10 23:55:47 EST 2003

"Great analysis.
Now you know why movies like Sethu, Kaasi, Ramana were successful DESPITE the irrelevant and lousy songs."

You missed out to mention about abother 800 titles.

:))
From: gopal (@ 161.142.100.86) on: Tue Feb 11 00:05:43 EST 2003

'www.dhwanii.com' has a review on 'Kaathal Virus' . u guys who think ARR has no melody will re-think after reading it .
From: C~P (@ 202.9.147.152) on: Tue Feb 11 09:27:08 EST 2003

gopal,
true

raghu....read that complete analysis....dats real good

Vaitherruchal Thaanga Mudiyavillaiya Kanna ,
can u help us by providin a link to those 800 titles mayb! ;)
From: vardhini (@ 137.237.12.102) on: Tue Feb 11 12:49:51 EST 2003

My pick of ARR's melodies are
1. Pudu vellai mazhai(Roja)
2. Netru Illaada matram ennadu(film PudiyaMugam)
3.ooh lalalaaah (Minsaara kanavu)
4. Kaadal kaditham Serave megam ellam kaagidam(film Jodi)
From: peeps (@ 12.162.224.6) on: Tue Feb 11 16:38:24 EST 2003

ARR is good in melodies IMO..some short and sweet songs of ARR are too good in melody aspect..
my picks for a peaceful rainy winter night..

malargale malargale
anjali anjali pushpaanjali
minnaley nee vandha thenadi
engey enadhu kavidhai(i really miss chitra..:-( )
evano oruvan yasikiran
kandu kondein kandu kondein
narumugayey narumugayey
en mel vizhunda mazhai thuliyey
kaadhal rojavey
ennavaley adi ennavaley
thennayiley(Jayachandran song from kadhalan)
Thendraley thendraley mella nee veesu
Swasamey vaasamey
nenjey nenjey marandhu vidu
Snehidaney snehidaney

I am sure i wud have missed many more..
From: AZWEENA MUNAFFER (@ ) on: Wed Jun 25 08:18:46 EDT 2003

HI
I LIKE TO TELL U I LIKE THIS SONGS
UNNEKENA UNAKENA PIRANTHENA
IDHU THANA IDHU THANA
From: Music4ever (@ 130.111.58.78) on: Wed Jun 25 11:11:55 EDT 2003

The songs SwaasamE swaasamE and Sonnalum kEtpadhillai kanni manadhu are "cloyingly" sweet. Wonder why these songs are not popular.
From: Music4ever (@ 130.111.58.78) on: Wed Jun 25 11:14:51 EDT 2003

The song that goes khamosh(u) raath, sehami hawa (or something along those lines) in the movie by Govind Nihalani (forget the name of movie) is a great song.
From: asdf (@ 203.199.143.149) on: Thu Jun 26 01:02:48 EDT 2003

peeps neeya???

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