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Importance to Virtue (chastity / kaRpu) in TFM

Topic started by eden (@ 202.144.64.4) on Wed Dec 20 04:49:18 EST 2000.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

Background:
`oruvanukku oruththi' & `no uRavu (why even no sparisam) before marriage' are traditional values of Thamizh culture (or that's what my understanding is)...silambu is one big example of this...kuRaL also venerates wife of chastity as `dheivam thozhAL, kozhunan thozhudhezhuvAL, `pei' enappeiyyum mazhai'...

Even during my growing-up days, it's considered a mistake to unintentionally touch a person of opposite sex (wherever I lived / studied) and an intentional touch (let alone petting)is considered a SIN..(why most elderly people won't even tolerate eyeing)...

why this preaching, one might ask, now comes the...hi,hi,

Discussion point:
1. How have TFM viewed this aspect over the decades of its existence - accepted / condemned / uncared?
2. Is there a specific debasing influence of TFM on the above aspect of Thamizhs' lives?

Please let us discuss with specific TFM examples only and let this thread not become some 3rd rate pattimandRam like `kaRpil siRandhavaL kaNNagiyA, mAdhaviyA':-)

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Responses:

• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Wed Dec 20 06:21:24 EST 2000
  
  eden,
  good topic. ur second point is intriguing, because of the usage of the word "debasing". can you be more specific?
  
  
• From: eden (@ 202.144.64.4) on: Wed Dec 20 06:58:53 EST 2000
  
  I'm sorry, what I meant was `Can TFM be termed as "debasing?" ' (Deteriorating the traditional values / ozhukkam etc.):-(
  
  
• From: eden (@ 61.1.250.138) on: Fri Dec 22 04:00:49 EST 2000
  
  From the lukewarm response at DF, can we infer that TFM generally left this aspect uncared (like DFers)?:-)
  
  One song I can immediately remember is a PS number which starts like `oruvanukkE oruththi endrE', stressing the importance of marital fidelity...don't know the name of the movie though:-(
  
  Since movie making is a kind of game played on the impressionable minds, and music playing a strong part on shaping up emotions, I thought TFM would have influenced the society in a great deal...
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Sat Dec 23 05:35:15 EST 2000
  
  eden,
  naan irukka bayamen:-)))
  
  in songs like "oruthi oruvanai ninaithuvitaal" and "ullaththin kadhavugal kangalada", there is constant harping on the "oruvanukku oruththi" concept. ij a way, i think it was reflective of the prevailing social ideas of that time, when chastity was top on marital priority list.
  
  more later
  
  
• From: Kamban (@ 142.154.129.80) on: Sat Dec 23 21:27:17 EST 2000
  
  1.KaNavanin thuNaiyodu thaanE
  Kaamanai vendraaga vaendum......
  
  2.M: KadavuL meethu aaNai unnai kaivida mAttOm
  F: En uyir meethu aaNai vEru kai pada mAttOm....
  
  Do these fit your description?
  
  

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