Do Northies hate South Indians?

[bingleguy]

he said "b'cos Tamil people hate Hindi and northies"

This is the attitude many northie's carry when it comes to Tamilians

Well said .... ! this could be one common impression that a person who is from the north carry ......

i would somewhat accept the factor that this racial discrimination of color plays a major factor ! they generally address the southies as madrasis ,... which had been a common word .....

but in contrast ... i have a very good set of North Indian friends who form a part of my close circle ..... i ve indulged myself in a sort of grazing this grassland recently ... would be coming up soon with a seed from it .....

[Sanguine Sridhar]

km,

idhu oru nalla kelvi!!

nalla fair-a irrukura pasanga dark-a irrukura ponnungala kalyanam pannika konjam yosipaanga so as vice-versa!

sindhikka vendiya vishayam!

[Sanguine Sridhar]

km oru kelvi, ungga ponnu valandha pinna neengale ippadi oru advertisement kodupeengala? Maaten-nu sonnengana adhu thaan ungga question-kaana vidai!

[Designer]

Based on my experiences after living in North india for many years, I found that most North Indians DO NOT HATE South indians per se. But they hated to hear us speak in English, and used to call even SIs talking English out of necessity (unlike 'Peter' vidara English), as 'angrEz' (meaning Englishman), and some NIs even used to verbally abuse such English speaking SIs (I have seen it happen to my friends while in Delhi).

And they also look down upon southies as a lesser qualified species compared to themselves and, label all SIs as 'madhraasis'. Sometimes even Bengalis were called 'madhraasis', because the ladies of that community also wear nose rings like southies. The reasons for the NIs' prejudice is, IMO could be bcos the SIs are a less aggressive people compared to the NIs and we are definitely more dark skinned when taken as a whole. The aggressiveness of NIs can be attributed to historical reasons and the fair complexion to the cold climate and similar factors.

Another factor for the NI's prejudice could be that, generally SI's are more brainy (cerebral & mathematically capable) than NIs, and used to corner plum govenment posts which the Punjabi, or Haryanavi, or UP-ite could not get. However even though SIs are more brainy, we werent aggressive and enterprising enough (till in recent decades) in marketing ourselves to gain monetary wise. Hence till recently we couldnt make our mark in the International Business fora as compared to NIs, Sindhis, Gujjus, Marwadis,etc. Its only after the advent of SIs like Narayana Murthy (Infosys) that our stock has risen in the international business community.

For eg, just look at our day to day consumer goods - most of them are manufactured in some state north of the Vindhyas. Its only in recent decades that (due to software boom), SIs have become equally enterprising & aggressive like the NIs; and the Great Divide is narrowing IMO.

[DIGR]
One more thing - whether we like it or not, fair complexions are preferred by most people - if not why are fairness creams selling hotter than freebies? Reg why do prospective grooms always ask for a fair bride, maybe bcos they feel that fate has been un'fair' in making them slightly dark complexioned and if the wife is also dark, then the chances of the offsprings being born dark will also be high. But I have read somewhere that girls in certain South American countries prefer dark skinned males . Moreover even the prospective groom's mother proudly tells her friends - my daughter in law looks beautiful like Goddess Lakshmi !

Thats why as our dear friend (and well known comedian) Mr.Senthil wisely opined in a popular film, poNdaattiyaavathu segappaa irunthaal, porakkara kozhanthaiyum segappa irukkum. illaatti, ennai mathri kavithu vechcha aamai Ottula kariya poosina mathri attai kariya irukkum; illaatti iluppa chetti kari colorla irukkum.

[/DIGR]

[thamizhvaanan]

For eg, just look at our day to day consumer goods - most of them are manufactured in some state north of the Vindhyas. Its only in recent decades that (due to software boom), SIs have become equally enterprising & aggressive like the NIs; and the Great Divide is narrowing IMO.

Bang on target!!

Even in industrialised cities downsouth like Coimbatore, a good proportion of the enterpreneurs are North Indians. So, mostly S.Indians have been employees rather than employers... And the divide is narrowing, moreso in industrial sector rather than consumer goods. Because of our recent trade policy, SI is attracting more FDIs. And this has spurred on lots of small scale industries. The preference for S.India by mahor companises is more than obvious for a multitude of reasons.

[thamizhvaanan]

do we have to learn hindi to become indians? Does it mean that the northies are born indians and we all have to undertake a course to become indians?

tv,

we being a COUNTRY WITH so many varied languages UNFORTUNATELY, tell me WHAT SHOULD ONE DO to communicate IN A SINGLE LANGUAGE thro out the nation?

Chose the common language known to all right?

IS THERE ANY PROBLEM THEN, in accepting some language as national language?

a) If my point is valid, then a foreign language (such as english) is a FAIR substitute which would be equal on all citizens.
b) there need not be a SINGLE LANGUAGE for communications. Examples are right infront of our eyes where countries like Singapore and malaysia have more than one national language. I will dwell upon this later on.

AFAIK, the proposal for single national language for India and making it the lingua franca was put forth by Gandhiji. It is according to his philosophy that Hindi should be imposed on all Indians.

One should consider the political scenario under which he voiced his opinions. After WWII the whole world was in a fix, whether to go for Capitalism or Communism. An India and its mentors were always predisposed towards communism that they opted for a milder version of it - Socialism.

One key aspect of communism is that all the divides within human race must be eliminated. One language, One (or NO :P) religion etc., I guess Gandhi was also in for this utopian scenrario. This disposition towards communism led to policies such as Single national language and Closed door trading. As history would tell, both turned out to be insufficient if not damagin policies.

[unhappyboy]

Based on my experiences after living in North india for many years, I found that most North Indians DO NOT HATE South indians per se. But they hated to hear us speak in English, and used to call even SIs talking English out of necessity (unlike 'Peter' vidara English), as 'angrEz' (meaning Englishman), and some NIs even used to verbally abuse such English speaking SIs (I have seen it happen to my friends while in Delhi).

Funny how these dumb NIs drool over whiteys who can't speak Hindi, but refuse to extend the same courtesy to SIs, who also face similar problems. If whiteys can't speak Hindi, these NIs justify it by saying they're from another country etc. etc. But SIs are also brought up to speak their respective languages, so why the hell do NIs expect them to speak Hindi?

[hi]

One northy girl came for internship to my company

she was saying.. madrasi are dark ppl,yucky..full of oil in hair and not westernised as bombay guys / girls.. i was

life will be boring to get settle in southindai as everyone is conservative ...


i replied her... we r more cultured than u bombay girls :P

[Designer]

One northy girl came for internship to my company

she was saying.. madrasi are dark ppl,yucky..full of oil in hair and not westernised as bombay guys / girls.. i was

life will be boring to get settle in southindai as everyone is conservative ...


i replied her... we r more cultured than u bombay girls :P

Anjali : well said

unhappyboy : that should answer part of your question. We southies are not only more cultured than NIs, but are also more broadminded reg accepting, accommodating people from other cultures and treating them with courtesy. But northies (in North india), though possibly broad bodied than us, are narrow minded when interacting with southies. They tend to criticise the southies' English accent and even for not being able to speak Hindi. They tend to project as if everything originating in the North is good and tasteful (eg Music, Movies, etc) and, everything connected with south indians is not upto their so called benchmark.


Aside : enakku neenda naaLa oru aasai. oru North Indian-ai puduchittu vanthu solla vekkaNum - "vyazhakkizhamai vaazhai pazhaththil vazhukku vazhukku vizhunthaan" . . apdi avan (or avaL, athu) solla thavarinaal, oru Latthi-aala lottu lottu nu muttikki mutti thattaNum

[Wibha]

one most annoying thing in northies is dat....... Majority think V as south Indians are illiterate...and dey think that we are like some aliens settled in their country......... this is so ridiculous....... it's okay if v learn hindi as it's our national language and all of us are proud to know it....... even though v r in da same country a NI will not know many of our cultures........ dey forget the fact that all of us r indians and den r respective language or religious ppl :S ..............da worst of all. some ppl continue da distinction of NI and SI even in oder countries