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5th February 2012, 08:22 PM
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Roshan & Arvind
Both are excellent charukesi's - 'edho edho' is my favorite. This raga must have fancied him a lot. He used it often and most of them were hits. 'mazhai mega vanna' - desam ('pal pal hai' - swades) is another beautiful. He also used charukesi for his Raga of dance piece in vanessa mae collaboration:
Note the graha bedam in the middle..
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5th February 2012 08:22 PM
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5th February 2012, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by
RR
Roshan & Arvind
Both are excellent charukesi's - 'edho edho' is my favorite. This raga must have fancied him a lot. He used it often and most of them were hits. 'mazhai mega vanna' - desam ('pal pal hai' - swades) is another beautiful. He also used charukesi for his Raga of dance piece in vanessa mae collaboration:
Note the graha bedam in the middle..
Thanks RR for this link. Pure bliss ! Spellbinding work with the violins there. I kept repeating the portion from 4.00-4.19 (it made me hold my breath). And interestingly what I like most about both in Udhaya Udhaya and YaethO YaethO is the way he uses the violins. Specially in the interludes. In the first interlue of Udhaya Udhaya the solo violin piece would stir your soul. And it's simply amazing in the background of un paathi vaazhgiraen - en paathi thEigiRaen. He goes berserk towards the end of 2nd interlude and also at the end of both Charanams with the violins. Same with yaethO yaethO interludes and towards the end of 2nd Charanam. Thanks once again for the link and also the previous one. Have saved them.
BTW, would appreciate if you can explain a bit about graha bedam
Last edited by Roshan; 5th February 2012 at 10:27 PM.
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6th February 2012, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by
Roshan
BTW, would appreciate if you can explain a bit about graha bedam
Its a very popular technique where scale changes in a particular raga helps in arriving at another raga.....
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for example take the raga- mohanam- say the scale C - the notes are S R2 G2 P D2 S; in western C D E G A Ctop
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1) if we take R2 G2 P D2 S R2 from mohanam and use R2 as S, we get the ragam - madhyamavathi
2) same way if we take - G2 P D2 S R2 G2 and take G2 as S, we get the ragam- hindolam
In the same way with, P as lower S- we get sudha saveri and with D2 as S we get sudha dhanyasi
this is what is known as graha bedam......
graha bedam is also possible in various ragams, be it melakartha or janya ragams.....
take even charukesi- we get three ragams using graha bedam - vachaspathi, natakapriya and gowri manohari.....
hope this answers your question or have i confused you even more.....
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6th February 2012, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by
Arvind Srinivasan
Its a very popular technique where scale changes in a particular raga helps in arriving at another raga.....
.
for example take the raga- mohanam- say the scale C - the notes are S R2 G2 P D2 S; in western C D E G A Ctop
.
1) if we take R2 G2 P D2 S R2 from mohanam and use R2 as S, we get the ragam - madhyamavathi
2) same way if we take - G2 P D2 S R2 G2 and take G2 as S, we get the ragam- hindolam
In the same way with, P as lower S- we get sudha saveri and with D2 as S we get sudha dhanyasi
this is what is known as graha bedam......
graha bedam is also possible in various ragams, be it melakartha or janya ragams.....
take even charukesi- we get three ragams using graha bedam - vachaspathi, natakapriya and gowri manohari.....
hope this answers your question or have i confused you even more.....
Many thanks Arvind No confusion at all. It's quite clear. Another small request, can you tell me at which point the graha bedam happens in the Venessa Mae link RR had posted? ellaam oru aarva kOLaRuthaan
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6th February 2012, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by
RR
Roshan & Arvind
Both are excellent charukesi's - 'edho edho' is my favorite. This raga must have fancied him a lot. He used it often and most of them were hits. 'mazhai mega vanna' - desam ('pal pal hai' - swades) is another beautiful. He also used charukesi for his Raga of dance piece in vanessa mae collaboration:
Note the graha bedam in the middle..
What a stunner! Listening to this for the first time. Just now realised that i have it on my hard disk, but never listened to it. This is a hidden gem.
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