IR New Albums - Old responses (5 Aug 2006)

[Nitya]

Rajasaranam

You are in planet earth
you almost look like a female
you have more money than you need

Rajasaranam, you are right on the first one. But FYI, I keep sideburns, a mustache and a goatee. Plus I have a flat chest. And what's this "you have more money than you need"?
Why then do you call atheists more broad-minded than theists?


Rajasaranam

Raj again I would never wish to discuss political/social issues here as this is not perfect platform for doing it... if not for that post of nitya who spewed her haterd towards atheists.

nitya is my screen-name. My real name is Nityananda, and I don't hate atheists. I'm simply concerned for their souls. I don't know the life story of Periyar, so pls. forgive what might look like fanaticism on my part.

[Nitya]

kiru

Nitya wrote:
sudhakarg

Not sure if IR would accept composing music on a subject that calls for atheism!!

I'd hope not!!! I wouldn't want to see such a great talent using his musical capabilities to promote atheism.

I disagree. Working on a movie on Periayar does not equate to promoting atheism. Moreover, not all movies IR worked on were examples to be emulated by the youth/general population. Most of our movies are sexist (the way hero treats the heroine), vulgar (eg. nethu rathiri yamma) many are casteist, and a growing lot are glorifying/espousing violence.
To be honest, I should say, inspite of the negatives (violence on brahmins), Periyar DID contribute majorly to the social maturity/growth of the state.
DMK/ADMK and other parties have used Periyars' ideologies conveniently to their own personal gains and have precipitated the failure of the Dravidian movement. The return to casteism in the state is proof of this.
(Even Dir. Bala is overrated , chEran seems to be more positive-minded and healthy in his approach. I watched thavamai thavamirunthu and really appreciate it. Wish IR had done the music for this - some copycats have used ARRs music in this movie).

When you say "Not all movies by IR were examples to be emulated by the youth and the general population," and that "most of our movies are sexist, vulgar, many are casteist and a growing lot are glorifying and espousing violence," I can say with conviction that you're right. I have seen enough Tamil films to know. Perhaps I should rephrase my first posting regarding Periyar. I meant to say that "I hope that the songs in that film do not reinforce atheism."

[kalnayak]

Beginning itself this film is disappointing - IR is not scoring.

[rajdes]

RS, agree this is not the place for political discussions. And I dont browse other sites . So, I'll just sign-off saying this: "Bitterness about past doesnt solve anything - vision for future does. You need to forego the temptation to take revenge to ensure a better tomorrow"
Thats my belief and personal experience

I see a point in your hopes about the story inspiring IR but I pin down that as just that - hope rather than a realistic expectation

Nitya, ippo enna? If IR does a song on atheism, how does that matter? Surely, nobody is going to change their belief listening to such a song, howsoever good it might be? Rajasaranam didnt become a theist because of thiruvasagam

I dont understand this and similar claims about religion being threatened by a movie, song etc - recent example being da vinci code - surely a belief that has survived 2000 years (and much more in the case of hinduism) cannot be threatened by a mere movie or a book?

Take Tamilnadu for instance - for 50 years and more, anti-GOD thing has been going on - is there a reduction in the superstitions and religousity in general? No! What has happened is that we have got new Gods like Periyar, Anna, Kannagi....and IR/ARR .Basically, the Hindu cult of mind is engrained in our genes including non-Hindus - we Indians specialise in making personal Gods and personalize the whole experience of spiritualism - so even though a periar-worshipper(not a rational periyar follower, note - I am sure this category is a minority in TN) denigrates GODS(in general, probably only Hindu Gods in their case), I can only laugh at him because by worshipping their leaders, they have only absorbed the spirit of Hinduism in them . In my opinion, Hinduism is all about personalizing your spiritual experience - it doesnt matter how you reach it or which God you worship - it is about awakening your soul. In that sense, True Periar followers could be called True Hindus and vice-versa - it is the in-between gang mired in Caste, Hierarchy, class and nepotism that is neither here nor there.
Enough of my politics. Admin, please delete if anything is (unintendedly) offensive to anyone

[njv]

Some speculation about the forthcoming movie "Shiva":

http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/h...cle/23076.html

Thanks,

Krishnan

http://subwaycinema.com/frames/nyaff06_shiva.htm

[vem]

This thread is mainly for discussing IR albums. Not why he chose or didnt choose to work on an album. There could be 100s of other reasons (not just idealogical diff) for IR not working on the Periyar movie.

People from different religions come to this site. So let us not make this a Religious/Atheist thread, as we have many such threads in the internet for such silly fights.

Again, religion is very personal. So if Periyar Ramasamy didnt want to worhsiip God, so be it. But the irony is that these people (so called Atheists) are just ANTI-HINDU. Thats all. Sathyaraj, our great Kalaignar, because of Politics, criticize the Hindu practices and the Geetha while not uttering a word against Bible or Quran.

But that is politics. Let us not squabble on whose God is better or if GOD really exists ?

The bottomline is IR is not working on that Periyar movie - who knows the director might have thought that IR could be just over the hill as a music director (even though we dont believe that)

[Nakeeran]

Rajasaranam & Nityanand

shred egos & useless exchanges on Atheism / Theism & just focus on the subject. about IR .
What I could see here is PURE EXCHANGE OF EGO TAMPERING

for heaven sake, dont drag the caste tag here . Disgusting

we are in 21st century now

[sudhakarg]

I'm hooked onto to two songs from Madhu for the last 4 days

1) indha ulagil
2) kEtka villaya

Whoever thinks Raja's best days are over, please listen to these two songs. You would know that the journey has just begun!!

[cry_sandiego]

Kiru,

I liked Thavamai Thavamirunthu as well.. ( except it seemed a little long ..maybe i have gotten spoilt in this fast food culture ) .. at many visuals i longed for IR's BGM.. the movie had terrible BGM masking many good dialogues that i had to replay to catch what the characters were saying . It seemed like Sun TV serial BGM with overpowering music.. No-one understands the power of silence in BGM as IR does..



Cheers
MSK

[krish244]

Njv, I came to know about this premiere thing a few days back (missed to post it here...). Probably RGV is waiting for the completion of song picturisation (as he mentioned in an interview) and the overall packaging before announcing the release date.

Since there is no update after the release of the trailer (by IndiaFM), the media got curious about it! BTW, surprising is that only IndiaFM website has released the trailer of this movie or has it been shown in any other website? As far as I know the trailer has not been shown on TV (or has it been??).

thanks,

Krishnan