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24th June 2012, 07:33 PM
#71
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By the way, I am looking for a reference in Tamil Literature where Murugan is praised as the Father of Lord Shiva himself. Can you tell me in which literary work ?
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24th June 2012 07:33 PM
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23rd August 2012, 09:02 PM
#72
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Originally Posted by
NOV
vadivEl, he is not even from India.
Where is he from then?
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23rd August 2012, 09:29 PM
#73
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Originally Posted by
Harish Kumar
By the way, I am looking for a reference in Tamil Literature where Murugan is praised as the Father of Lord Shiva himself. Can you tell me in which literary work ?
Anbu Sir,
I hope you're reading this.
See, this is what annoys me What's all this profane hyperbole (result of polytheism) about? There can never be competition between gods as god is one.
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24th August 2012, 11:48 AM
#74
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Originally Posted by
Sunil_M88
Anbu Sir,
I hope you're reading this.
See, this is what annoys me
What's all this profane hyperbole (result of polytheism) about? There can never be competition between gods as god is one.
Sunil Sir,
As I said, the Consciousness which shines within and through all these divinities, and indeed in all beings of the Universe is the one and only Lord alone. Because of people having different inherent characteristics, they are all born with certain tendencies towards certain types of divinities and certain types of devotees. The scriptures (Puranas/Itihasas) themselves praise one form over another. When they are praising Maheshwara, they will say that He is above all the other gods. He existed prior to all of them and gave birth to them. When they are praising Mahavishnu, they will say that He is beyond all comprehension, even that of Shiva and other gods.
Because *equal* weight is given in tradition to all of these scriptures, it is obvious that it is not to spread any sectarian message that the scriptures talk in this way (i.e., comparing divinities). They do so only because people are many and varied, and they are to be uplifted in ways that are best adapted according to each of them. This is to cater to the pecularities of the people, thats all. The scriptures themselves do not really say that one form is better than another.
For example, suppose there are 3 children in a family, and all have some trouble studying. Suppose each one enjoys a different kind of sweet, Then the all compassionate mother might offer a reward of that particular sweet the child likes, in order that they might study. This does not mean the mother favours one sweet over another. In order to make the children study, the mother who knows about her children, offers the specific kind of sweet to that specific child. In this way, the development of each of her children is ensured. Hinduism too works in the same way.
My humble suggestion is not to discard any religion (actually, anything for that matter) without a thorough investigation. Especially in religious matters, it would be disservice to oneself if we discard or condemn without having gathered sufficient knowledge (meaning a reasonably thorough understanding and the local/global perspectives) from a credible source (meaning a teacher, who himself or herself has gathered this understanding). Of course this is not to say one should not have questions, but just that one should be open enough for understanding.
Love and Light.
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29th September 2012, 12:20 AM
#75
Originally Posted by
Harish Kumar
By the way, I am looking for a reference in Tamil Literature where Murugan is praised as the Father of Lord Shiva himself. Can you tell me in which literary work ?
Not exactly as far as I have heard or come across, but definitely know that Lord Muruga is same as and representation of First most Shiva - please refer to this Bhakthi Song: URL- http://www.kaumaram.com/poems/shanmuganayagan.html written about the Six Faced God, in which you will find exactly what I have mentioned above.
thanks
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15th October 2012, 12:12 PM
#76
SS not sure if the question is still un answered.
some interesting read on murugan/kadamban - skanda/karthikeya rishi moolam....
http://karkanirka.org/2008/04/13/murugan1/
from what the authors has researched - murugan and skanda are 2 different gods--having their own identity in north and south .until the mash up arnd 4th to 9th ad happened.
take a look the blog also has link to the extensive research
please also read - http://karkanirka.org/2008/05/11/murugan1-2/ which claims murukan was much earlier to the vedic time(ie before the indus valley c and was worshipped as a spirit.
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