Neethane En Ponvasantham | Yeto Vellipoyindhi Manasu | Assi Nabbe Poorey Sau

[csramasami]

That is marvellous senthilv ! Thoroughly enjoyed your analysis. Keep it up!

[rajkumarc]

Fantastic analysis and very nicely done video Senthil. Please post about the other NEPV songs as well if you can. Thanks.

[venkkiram]

செந்தில்.

சிறந்த முயற்சி! இசையைப் பற்றி எதுமே தெரியாது என்று அறிவித்துவிட்டு குச்சியை கையில் வைத்து, நடத்துனர் போலவே இசையோடு அசைந்தது அழகு. ஒரு இடத்தில் இந்தப் பாடலுக்கு இப்படியெல்லாம் நடனம் கூட ஆடலாம் போலிருக்கு என ஆச்சர்யப்பட்டேன்

நீங்கள் முயற்சித்திருக்கும் (பாடலை முழுதும் இசைக்கவிட்டு, கருவிகளையும் எண்ணங்களையும் திரையில் எழுதிக் காண்பிக்கும்) யுத்தி புதுமையா இருக்கு. இசை, இசைக்கருவிகள் பற்றி ஞானம் இல்லாதர்வர்களுக்கு (என்னைப் போல) புரியும் வண்ணம் அமைத்திருக்கு. ராகம், தாளம் என்ற இலக்கணங்களோடு அணுகும் முறைக்கு அப்பால், ராஜாவின் இசையை இப்படியும் ரசிகர்களுக்கு கொண்டு செல்லணும்.

நிறைய எதிர்பார்க்கிறேன் உங்களிடமிருந்து.

வாழ்த்துக்கள்! நிறைய ரசிகர்கள் கண்டு மகிழட்டும்.

[San_K]

Super Senthil V

[kiru]

Awesome Senthil.. please do more. The conducting provides visual cues. I follow the singers hands in indian music.

[senthilv.com]

Thanks Kiru, San_K, Venkkiram, Rajkumar. Encouragement helps.

I used to do this "conducting" in bits and pieces in late 1990's with friends in the name of "night study" (But actually listening to Raja songs) They used to make fun of me Didn't know it could be useful one day. You guys feedback on the previous video (Part1) helped me to try this out.

Next video might be Kaatrai Konjam.

Venkkiram,

IMO, it is better to approach Raja's songs without technical ideas, Raga, Thala, storytelling etc... If you directly perceive or feel the song, you will get more than from parsing it. Once you have felt it, then you could break it down. Because I believe, Raja himself "feels" the song/mood first and once he realizes the music, he sees the patterns in his own creation, he explores more and makes it consistent.

PS: Your Tamil writing is lovely to read.

[kiru]

IMO, it is better to approach Raja's songs without technical ideas, Raga, Thala, storytelling etc...

Well, I would put it as - raagam/thaalam is just one(two) aspects of the song.. the raagam for the mood, the thaalam accentuating it. But more than that there is actually story-telling happening in the instrumental parts as well (not just the lyrics) as you have demonstrated (and V_S earlier for SriRamaJayam). A listener has to listen to all the sounds in IR's song. Otherwise, he/she is not getting their money's worth. When others might add instrumental just to accentuate the feel or just 'decorate' it. IR gets the story and writes the score. This is the only way he can do things fast and with variety, otherwise he will be forced to do things by 'trial and error'. (Music by Design vs Music By Ear).
This is one of the reasons that I think IR's songs do not lend itself well for 'improvisation' all the notes are interrelated. No way, just by improvising the vocal parts you can keep the song 'intact'. Yesterday, Hariharan totally killed one of the few TV viewing pleasures, I indulge in - watching Super Singer Junior. I just dont like that guy

[senthilv.com]

This is one of the reasons that I think IR's songs do not lend itself well for 'improvisation' all the notes are interrelated. No way, just by improvising the vocal parts you can keep the song 'intact'.

Well put. Raja's compositions are like walking on knife. If you try to mess with it, you will look very silly! Even though he has moved lot closer to WCM with his recent scores, the best way to listen to his score is still to follow the melody lines and let the orchestral elements work their way into you. And the melody lines are so intertwined with orchestral backing and ornamentation, that if you improve the melody or try a different sangathi the orchestral elements can go haywire. So, if you improvise a part you have to improvise the whole score!! If you don't, ppl run into the problem you just mentioned.

[layman10]

Well put. Raja's compositions are like walking on knife. If you try to mess with it, you will look very silly! Even though he has moved lot closer to WCM with his recent scores, the best way to listen to his score is still to follow the melody lines and let the orchestral elements work their way into you. And the melody lines are so intertwined with orchestral backing and ornamentation, that if you improve the melody or try a different sangathi the orchestral elements can go haywire. So, if you improvise a part you have to improvise the whole score!! If you don't, ppl run into the problem you just mentioned.

Recently, some thengai mudi band was improvising some raja songs on Super singer, could not stand it.

[K]

NEPV From 14Feb 2013

http://tamil.oneindia.in/movies/news...se-163742.html