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    R.V.Udhayakumar deserves praises, he did good with IR.
    His works are village type based & created sentiment, love, pathos moments for Raja to come up with ever green songs which R.V.U presented aesthetic with Rajini, Karthik etc..
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    I've seen only singAravElan & ejamAn by RVU and both are, "purely from village-movie-authenticity-PoV", very ordinary ones - even mockeries - if one keeps 16V as the "minimum acceptable standard" for IR.

    I haven't watched the other two acclaimed works of RVU (chinnakkounder / kizhakku vAsal) and so cannot comment.

    Either way, for rAsA to praise someone, HE has to feel that way (and not WE feeling so), illeengaLa?

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    yes!
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    Saw the video. Nothing wrong with the way or what RVU is saying. RVU will say this in front of IR as well and I dont think IR will take offence at this too. IR is not intolerant. He is cool.He knows he is not very generous with appreciation . He just cannot tolerate incompetency. Imagine watching 900 of our movies, probably more than once to write the score for them. He has been through hell

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    so true... he has done 900 movies, the other thread goes very slow, only handful of compositions we have posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kiru View Post
    Saw the video. Nothing wrong with the way or what RVU is saying. RVU will say this in front of IR as well and I dont think IR will take offence at this too.
    +1.

    Actually RVU's songs are easy on the eyes. Very good in fact. AdhukkE "mm"-naa, wonder what would have been Raaja's reaction when he saw iLamanathu pala kaNavu or thaamaraikkOdi among thousand others

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    Quote Originally Posted by app_engine View Post
    but as a general rule, one should never ask a critic to "perform and show how".

    At the minimum, we got to be good in "OUR" trade to earn any respect in life / have some self-esteem etc, before we can even comment on others.

    In that sense, rAsA, by his immense music status, is even more qualified to critique peers in the industry!
    RVU was a talent to be attracted by Kamal and Rajini. He gave Vijayakanth a LandMark film which he can never think of in this career, once more.

    His main area is Village subjects. But he proved good in Singaravelan too.

    His songs video are surely peculiar and were already well praised by ppl, during that time. Yejamaan's Raakku muthu was a big hit not only for song but also video.

    Now, going by app's words, even raja too shud stay within his limits as an MD and song eppadi shoot panrathu, its director's headache and once movie is released, its on ppl's hands, which RVU considerably won ppl's praise.

    Raja can not only compose song, he can also tell where to stop a BGM and where to insert a song. He had suggested some to few directors and I gues with all the mighty he had those days, the directors had no choice other than inserting a song where Raja said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by app_engine View Post
    He once said "en kitta sollikkAttina mAthiri eduththadhu reNdE pEr thAn - BM & MR" (possibly meant as a compliment).

    Also, in the dhinathanthi varalARRu suvadukaL, he was all praise for BR for 16 vayadhinilE.

    Nasser was lauded for getting some tech for dEvadhai movie (AV interview in the 90's).

    Recently, Gautam has earned his praises on-stage for bringing in the EU orch / giving him space etc.

    His standards are so high (very rarely matched by TF artists, whose works were many steps inferior to the corresponding "isaiththaram" of rAsA and he had to often cover up their defects as well thru BGM).

    To earn praises from him is something like "Vashishtar vAyAl brahma rishi", not simple
    en kitta solli kaattina maathiri - did directors explained hownthey are going to picturise the song and also got his approval?!? for 900 songs?!? come on!!

    His standards are so high - as what ?? mvie critic??!? So he has saw 900 films and incl many great films of Kamal, now is it so that he can write a script like Kamal and shoot a film with kamal's calibre?!? And his so called high standards in both the film content and song content, are actually wud have been set by the great directors who went to him! They too play a part in shaping IR's rasanai.

    Getting praise from IR is always not gonna translate into the same wrt Public. We all know what happened to Devathai! I saw that movie in Devi paradise with empty halls.

    And does anybody remember that movie/song/picturisation?!?

    "Vashishtar vAyAl brahma rishi" - He is Vasishtar, yes, but in what area? How to shoot a Song?!? WTH

    He is Music Raja or All in all Azhagu Raja?!? Or you guys trying to make him one?? when even he himself is not interested in becoming so?!?

    He won't even remember some of his own songs. Impossible. How can he remember/recall most of his movies' song video?!?
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    Those who criticize Singara Velan , didn't you notice the beauty in "Pottu vaitha..." song picturization ?
    How RVU cuts at one place and goes on to another, comes back to the same shot etc ? The song is a beautiful rotation of shots in the bus, cycle, Bullock cart etc.

    This way of cuts and returning to the same place is typical of BR. RVU might have got inspired by BR's style.

    Even Muthu mani maalai from chinna koundar is a beautiful example of picturization of a song.

    And "Chithagathi pookale.." from Rajakumaran. The initial shots rotate between Prabhu Nadiya jodi and a couple of pigeons which flutter their feathers for IR's drums rythm.

    What more can IR expect from a director ?!?!

    Just day before yesterday I happened to watch the song "Uchchi malai megangal thooralgal poda.." . What a nonsense imagination for a beautiful song..

    And as somebody here said, "Thamarai kodi.." song..IR should have watched that..

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    >>And as somebody here said, "Thamarai kodi.." song..IR should have watched that..

    This song is from Anandha Kummi, produced by Raja sir's own pavalar productions.. ooothikitta padam. Wonder how he must have reacted to the director since it was his own production.

    If Raja sir thinks a song has turned out so good and if he feels it could be a definite hit, what is wrong in expecting that this should have be been picturised better? Many of his super duper hit songs were shot in simple studio parks and pathetic environments. That is sad, I am sure those directors would have paid the price on their next movies with him.

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